Unwanted Whales... NBO

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  1. cosmicevan

    cosmicevan Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2009 New York
    Trader

    you really have an algorithm? i figured you took a bunch of index cards on a big table and arranged them ensuring that you get the best match possible (as you should as the organizer) - lol. didn't realize you were a techie in real life.
     
    #221 cosmicevan, Apr 9, 2012
  2. Urbancaver

    Urbancaver Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2009 Ohio

    The algorithm is for determining overall rankings

    There is no algorithm for assigning targets (persay)
     
    #222 Urbancaver, Apr 9, 2012
  3. shufon

    shufon Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2008 New York

    By overall rankings do you mean an aggregated score for each beer based on all the data? Is the process of matching where each beer is sent done manually then?
     
    #223 shufon, Apr 9, 2012
  4. Urbancaver

    Urbancaver Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2009 Ohio

    No, there are formulas and such that assist in the process :slight_smile:
     
    #224 Urbancaver, Apr 9, 2012
  5. shufon

    shufon Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2008 New York

    I see. If you don't mind, I'm very interested to see how this is done at some point after the BIF is over :slight_smile:
     
    #225 shufon, Apr 9, 2012
  6. Urbancaver

    Urbancaver Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2009 Ohio

    A lot of people are quite interested... the process however is quite complex and won't be made public... the reason for this is that I don't want people trying to "game" the system in later rounds...
     
    #226 Urbancaver, Apr 9, 2012
  7. shufon

    shufon Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2008 New York

    No worries, that's totally understandable!
     
    #227 shufon, Apr 9, 2012
  8. futura123

    futura123 Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 California

    This is Cam's tool :
    [​IMG]
     
    #228 futura123, Apr 10, 2012
  9. Urbancaver

    Urbancaver Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2009 Ohio

    Actually... there is a spreadsheet full of stuff like this:
    =((55-COUNTIF(K25:BM25, ))/55)
    =RANK(R26, Scores)
    =max(AY2:AY58)+IF(sum(AY2:AY58)>1,1,0)

    just to name a few :stuck_out_tongue:
     
    #229 Urbancaver, Apr 10, 2012
  10. biniek13

    biniek13 Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2008 Minnesota

    All I see is a whole lot of huh?? :astonished: :grinning:
     
    #230 biniek13, Apr 10, 2012
  11. Urbancaver

    Urbancaver Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2009 Ohio

    42% submitted... And 15 people haven't even touched their rankings!! So anxious :stuck_out_tongue:
     
    #231 Urbancaver, Apr 10, 2012
  12. waltersrj

    waltersrj Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2010 Washington

    I feel the same way Cam! How's the "trading" looking? Are those "big" top 5-10 changing hands so far?
    :slight_smile:
     
    #232 waltersrj, Apr 10, 2012
  13. Urbancaver

    Urbancaver Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2009 Ohio

    Not enough of those people have submitted rankings...
     
    #233 Urbancaver, Apr 10, 2012
  14. cosmicevan

    cosmicevan Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2009 New York
    Trader

    some of us work with this stuff offline and consult our tasting groups before submitting :wink:
     
    #234 cosmicevan, Apr 10, 2012
  15. GregSVT

    GregSVT Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2009 Texas

    What is the tie breaker? Say I rank something as #1 and person 2 ranks the same beer as #1 and we both get matched to it. Is there a tie breaker in place like Wants/Gots ratio of the beer(s) we submitted or something else?
     
    #235 GregSVT, Apr 10, 2012
  16. Urbancaver

    Urbancaver Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2009 Ohio

    Its not quite that simple... and, definitely not going to go into too much detail on how beers are matched as I don't want people trying to "game the system". Suffice it to say you'll get your highest ranked beer that the system will allow :slight_smile:
     
    #236 Urbancaver, Apr 10, 2012
  17. futura123

    futura123 Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 California

    Cam uses another sophisticated tool:

    [​IMG]
     
    #237 futura123, Apr 10, 2012
  18. Urbancaver

    Urbancaver Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2009 Ohio

    Much more complicated than that:
    [​IMG]
     
    #238 Urbancaver, Apr 10, 2012
  19. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    He's brought the beer ****, Excel ****, and dice **** all in one thread.
     
    #239 Rempo, Apr 10, 2012
  20. tylermains

    tylermains Initiate (0) Apr 6, 2010 Kentucky

    Stop hurting my head... just mail me all your whales already
     
    #240 tylermains, Apr 10, 2012
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