Fat Head's to open brewpub in Portland, Ore.

Discussion in 'Northwest' started by miketd, May 22, 2013.

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  1. Kopfschuss

    Kopfschuss Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2009 Oregon

    Looking forward to checking them out. I haven't had any of their beers, but am excited to have a chance to. Always good to have more beer knowledge in this awesome town!
     
  2. fiver29

    fiver29 Savant (1,054) Sep 18, 2007 Ohio
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    I respectfully disagree. Head Hunter and IBUsive are a couple of the best IPAs out there. Period.
     
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  3. jampics2

    jampics2 Pooh-Bah (2,414) Dec 19, 2008 Ohio
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    Yep, that's the truth right there.
     
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  4. t4h2c0

    t4h2c0 Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2007 Washington

    Great Brewery, great beer, great news. I always love visiting their booth at GABF, no lines with awesome beers
     
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  5. suncrust

    suncrust Zealot (603) Apr 17, 2011 Washington

    Had the Mosaic Hop American Wheat last week and thought it was stellar. IBUsive is awesome.... This will be a great addition to our hop-centric area, but hoping it hits WA sooner rather than later.
     
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  6. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2008 Oregon

    Glad to hear it. I'm of the opinion that Portland actually needs some more good IPA/DIPAs that are brewered *here*. Megafauna and Workhorse from Laurelwood are tremendous, but I'd be hard pressed to find others that are in the same echelon as RPM or Hop Venom. (I'm not saying there aren't a lot of good IPAs or DIPAs, but I don't think there are many that are brilliant.)
     
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  7. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Have been many times to the one on E. Carson St. in Pittsburgh. Just my two cents, but I don't think Fat Heads in PDX will stand out at all. I found their house beers to be decent, but hardly exciting (probably comparable to the quality level you'll find over at Alameda Brewing). Their burgers are QUITE good, but in comparison to what you can find in PDX, again I don't think the food at Fat Heads will stick out either.

    Having traveled around a bit, my take is that a Fat Heads in PDX will be received much the same way the Mellow Mushroom seems to have been received. The MM is a BIG deal in the SouthEast, with above average pizza and a reliably outstanding taplist. At least for the SE. However, located in the Pearl in NW Portland, it seems to be consistently overlooked. Reason? Unlike in the South, it's easy to find good pizza and bars with a solid taplist in PDX.

    When I visited Asheville NC, visiting the MM was a big deal and one of the hilights of my trip. In PDX the thought never even crosses my mind to go visit the MM. My impression is that Fat Heads will be received much the same way as the MM.

    Again, this is just my two cents, but I thought the head hunter IPA was pretty tasty, especially when fresh. Given what was available in Pittsburgh, I tended to order it pretty much every time I saw it on a menu draftlist. Given the range of IPA's available in PDX, however, I can reliably state that I will almost certainly never order it here.
     
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  8. miketd

    miketd Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio

    Having spent time in Portland/PNW, I disagree on the issue of quality difference you mention(Boneyard is the best I have had by far). I know these things aren't perfect, but Fat Head's IPAs/IIPAs have done well at national competitions, most notably the Bistro IPA fest in CA. But I do think FH's may be viewed as a gimmick-brewery or potentially as inferior based on its home base. All that said, I'm not a fan of the food menu and not sure how that will go over.
     
  9. SeaAle

    SeaAle Maven (1,381) Jun 24, 2012 Oregon

    To Fat Head's: You're not in Ohio anymore.

    Good luck
     
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  10. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    As I indicated, it's just my opinion, and I'm sure a lot of that has to do with style preferences. IPA/DIPA's that I think are superior to fathead stuff include Maiden the shade, tricerahops. blue dot, Pelican imperial IPA, Boneyard RPM and Hop Venom (Notorious as well, if that counts), every IPA and DIPA that barley brown makes, Silver Moon's Uncle Jim's Mau Wowie DIPA, Megafauna, Bend hophead DIPA, Lucky Lab's Got Hops!, and that's just what I can think of off the top of my head. Portland also gets RR beers, which means we get elder, younger and blind pig here. Then there's all the Green Flash, FW and Alesmith stuff from California that's readily available here.

    Again, I thought head hunter a fine IPA, and given what else was available in the area (Pittsburgh), I thought it really stood out. I could sometimes find sculpin, union jack, double jack, and nugget nectar (in season), but none of those beers were generally/regularly available the way HH is/was. (aside from fat heads, it was on tap most of the time at Pipers and occasionally at smokin joe's). Really, the only IPA I could find on a regular basis that I thought comparable to HH, was Bell's two hearted.

    Time will tell of course, and given the thirst Portland consumers have for craft beer, Fat Heads may do OK. The MM does OK in PDX as well, from what I can tell, though again, they don't seem to be a destination craft location the way (for example) HOTD, Cascade Barrel House, Apex, Horse Brass, Bailey's, etc. are.

    I don't believe I ever said that Fat Head's makes bad beer (as you seem to infer in your post). All I said was that I don't find any of it to be particularly exciting, and I stand by that. Given how high the bar is set when it comes to outstanding beer in PDX, I think Fat Head's may have a difficult time making a go of it in PDX. Again, that's just my opinion and impression, having sampled most of the Fat Head beers, and after having tried a fair amount of Oregon beer.
     
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  11. fiver29

    fiver29 Savant (1,054) Sep 18, 2007 Ohio
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    I have just one more comment for this thread. Then I'm done.

    If it were me, I'd wait until the place in Portland actually opened. Then I'd visit and try their beer and food. Then I'd have an opinion. The end.
     
  12. miketd

    miketd Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio

    I didn't mean to imply you disliked Fat Head's; I just disagree with you on the quality gap. I have done a fair amount of traveling and IPA/IIPA is my favorite style. My opinion(only mine as well) is that FH's can stand with anyone. It's not just HH, but IBUsive(which is probably better), Imperial HH, Hop Juju(my favorite IIPA, tied with Hop Venom), and a ton of other small batch, hop-forward beer they brew. Their Lagers aren't at the level of Heater Allen, but they are good.

    Regions all have pride in their local brewers and they are going to gravitate to local beer. I do this and expect it to be common, especially in Portland. What I hope people in PDX realize is that any beer put on tap at Portland Fat Head's IS locally produced beer. I'm sure they will have beer there they don't make in Cleveland and stuff in Cleveland not available there.

    I have respect for your opinion as palates vary. There are many highly rated beers that I find average.
     
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  13. msubulldog25

    msubulldog25 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2005 Oregon

    As I mentioned above, I've only heard of the name Fat Head's... lots of good responses describing what to expect. I'm intrigued at this point...

    I'm really curious about this location: "13,000-square-foot space in the Pearl District about two blocks from Deschutes Brewery and Rogue Ales pubs". I have a couple ideas about where the location *might* be (has to be at least 1/4 city block...or multi-story?), but would love to know for certain. Anyone?
     
  14. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Of course you're right. My point was directed more at the fact that there is an awful lot of competition in Portland, which makes it difficult for any place to stand out (unless they're doing something unique, or really making or offering some outstanding beers). Based on my experience with the beer I've sampled at FatHead's in Pittsburgh, I think it's going to be very difficult for them to stand out (and thus do well) in this market. Of course I could be completely wrong about that, and as you indicated, the best thing to do is to wait and see (hence my comment about how "time will tell"). My opinion is really lilttle more than speculation, but it is based on having tried a number of FatHead beers, and also having spent a considerable amount of time exploring the beer scene in PDX. Personally, I hope they do VERY well in PDX, as that would tend to suggest that they're making some incredibly fine beers here. I'm not optimistic it's going to turn out that way for them, but as I indicated, I could well be wrong, and in this case I hope that I am.
     
  15. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    :-) You thnk maybe they purchased Powell's Book Store?
     
  16. dirtylou

    dirtylou Grand Pooh-Bah (3,352) May 12, 2005 Oklahoma
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    Any infringement on the hollowed grounds of Powell's will be grounds for an immediate, and permanent boycott
     
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  17. msubulldog25

    msubulldog25 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2005 Oregon

    Wouldn't that be somethin'? :slight_smile:

    Just going on the record and saying this building is my #1 guess for a location... seems to have be proximate to the others mentioned, be a corner block, size is right. I can see it being very similar to Deschutes Pub after a remodel (but it's on the SAME block as Deschutes, so maybe not...). We shall see...
     
  18. kscaldef

    kscaldef Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2010 Oregon

    As the author of the second lowest review for Head Hunter ever, I'm certainly curious to see if a fresh pint would change my mind.
     
  19. Hoptometrist

    Hoptometrist Pooh-Bah (1,635) Mar 19, 2011 Ohio
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    As a Clevelander who moved to Oregon this is great news. Head Hunter is still one of the best IPAs I have ever had and they make a ton of different beer styles that are top notch.
     
  20. Nanners

    Nanners Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2013 Ohio

    I just received a facebook notification from FATHEADS that said they were about to open a Portland location. Welcome to Ohio beer Oregon.
     
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