It pays to shop around

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by otispdriftwood, Aug 19, 2013.

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “Is it worth a separate thread?” Not to me but feel free to start one of you are so inclined.

    I personally will never use the two words “macro” and “craft” together since those two words are mutually exclusive to me.

    To put a finer point on this topic, for me:

    · Macro = swill

    · Craft = high quality, tasty beer

    Cheers!
     
  2. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    I don't think the date has anything to do with the price. I may be off the point but here goes.

    My local wegman's just got in a whole line of uinta. It's new to us but it's bottled a few months ago. See? It's a little cheaper than the local bottle shop but it's also a lot fresher by comparison. The freshest beer on the shelf isn't even local it's dale pale ale. So how does that distributor for dales pale ale manage his route so that his beer is fresher than southern tier or Ithaca beer which is local? I should not have to pay more for fresh beer - at least I don't think I should anyway. There is plenty of old beer at both the bottle shop and the wegmans. All different kinds from all over the country and the world. Your best bet is to pick the place that you can really haunt. Like so that you know their shelves almost as well as they do. That way you get what is freshest and if the price isn't that much different you have beaten the odds by persistence.
     
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  3. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    I would consider the top 5 or so best selling breweries as "macro craft" with macro being only an adjective that means bigger. Therefore, Stone & Lagunitas would need to be on this list with Dogfish Head as an honorable mention and Harpoon as an outsider.
     
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  4. mark14580

    mark14580 Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2011 New York

    A few things

    Yeah, no. They buy it at a higher cost than Target. Also, Target will price it to make less on each 12 pack and will make up the profit in volume.

    Target will do considerably more volume and will be consistently ordering. They probably get a shipment of SNPA in every week whereas a smaller shop doesn't need to do that.

    This is problem with many consumers and retailers not knowing/caring about beer freshness. If more were informed the store wouldn't leave old beer out.
     
  5. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado


    Persistence does work but only if you have the time to be persistent.
     
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  6. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Which is great for those of us who do care. Since the store continues to leave the old beer out, those who do not care or know about dates will move it out of our way.
     
  7. TheGator321

    TheGator321 Initiate (0) May 29, 2013 Connecticut

    The huge beer store near where I live has cases of Sierra Nevada piled up. They're all old and the put new inventory on the bottom so you can't physically get to them. The manager knows I buy craft beer and asked me why he never sees me buying Sierra. I told him it's old and it's technically bad beer. He scoffed at the notion and rolled his eyes.
     
  8. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Correction:
    Macro = large
    Macro Lager = Swill
    Macro Craft = a new phrase, meaning tbd.
     
  9. VictorWisc

    VictorWisc Maven (1,379) Jan 2, 2013 Massachusetts

    I agree on "macro" being an adjective or modifier here, not comparable to what is now a derogatory noun "macro". Strictly in terms of size, it's hard to put Harpoon in the same category, but the way they are distributed in the Northeast, they certainly qualify. I would put a secondary condition on "membership" by stipulating that a large fraction of their business has to be full cases or "mono" 12s. By this standard, Harpoon is certainly in--Lagunitas and Stone are not. DFH is on the bubble, but the other 4 do sell a lot of cases.
     
  10. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Full cases to consumers or retail business such as bars or restaurants? And how about kegs?
    And what is a "mono" 12 if you will excuse my ignorance.
     
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  11. VictorWisc

    VictorWisc Maven (1,379) Jan 2, 2013 Massachusetts

    consumers
    non-mixed 12s
    don't really care about kegs so much--some craft only goes to tap
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I recognize what you posted there but for me the word “macro” has connotations of swill beyond just using it with the word “lager”. I personally will not be using the terminology of “macro craft” but that is just me.

    Cheers!
     
  13. keithmurray

    keithmurray Pooh-Bah (2,967) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut
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    Oh please God, no, not another horse beaten into oblivion by the BA's
     
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  14. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    For better or worse, I think "macro craft" is a term that's a-comin around the mountain and I want to be in the first car.
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “…I want to be in the first car.” Well you better get to know Aaron (yemenmocha) because I think he is the driver of that first car.

    I will wave to you guys as you drive by me!:slight_smile:

    Cheers!
     
  16. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    Shopping around can mean the difference between a $13 Zhukov, and a $20 one.
    Not to mention some bars selling it for $50.
    Shopping around can be applied to any merchandise though.
     
  17. Onizilla

    Onizilla Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2009 New York

    All this talk of buying SNPA at 13-15 bucks makes me sad, My distributors best volume discount and it's still about a buck more at cost than these stores are selling.
    Yeeeaaah.
     
  18. Dr_Bahmbay13

    Dr_Bahmbay13 Pooh-Bah (1,751) Mar 10, 2013 Michigan
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    I'm buying year old scotch ales and some stouts from a local bottle shop,they obviously have too much inventory and I can't afford to buy them all either:angry:.I have been buying most of the mentioned in single's in a mix-a-six for 12.99, when considering the beer its a steal.I am a more frugal Beersmith you could say. Local chain grocery store every weekend knocks off up 2-3 dollars on SN 12 packs and on the sixers where this unheard of at the local place ever happening even once a year and i can get Founders 3 dollars cheaper than anywhere in town I am going to the grocery store. Plus its only 2 blocks away, i save on gas money too.
     
  19. Jeremy6566

    Jeremy6566 Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Arizona

    Which Safeway are you going to? I see plenty of Stone's IPA in the store closest to me, but none of the others that you mentioned. I might have to start picking up groceries at a different store!
     
  20. bigdaverosales

    bigdaverosales Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2013 California

    I get my Deschutes Fresh Squeezed from Costco for $5.49 a bottle. The stores around my home sell them for 6.99 and up. I factor in convenience. I'd pay the 1.50 more to simply not drive all the way to my Costco if I really want a FS. Hence convenience store.
     
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