What changes would you like to see in bars?

no tv

 

don't amend your comment. kids don't belong at bars. It's bad for the kids.

 

where are you finding this free glassware?

 

you sound like a good bartender

 

Point one isn't true where I live. Point two is just slinging insults because you don't like opinions that aren't your own

 

I don't really have much to add, and there are some good ideas as well as some that probably wouldn't work logistically. What I will say is in regard to children at bars. For one, if a parent wants to shelter his or her child from the world, homeschooling and home-cooked meals are where it's at. It's asinine and nonsensical to think a bar is a safe haven from the general doucheknobbery that is most of humanity. On the flip side, though, a lot of the people complaining about the noise they make probably frequent some bars where their drunk friends are at least as obnoxious. Personally, I prefer the 4 pm crowd, but I enjoy the liveliness of the late-night crowd so long as I can hear myself and my friends speak.
Generally, people don't like dealing with misbehaving children in public whether it's at a strip club, biker bar or library.

 

1. Tap list clearly posted with beer name, brewer, ABV, pour size, price
2. Knowledgeable bartenders
3. Proper glassware, never frosted
4. Beer mats (hate those damn little drink napkins)
5. No TVs (interferes with the conversation)
6. Barely noticeable music
7. Hooks for coats and handbags

 

No TVs at all. They just discourage conversation.

 

True and true!

 

I'd change that to no kids under 16 years old or at least no one under 7. Infants and toddlers have no place at a bar or even a restaurant, if you want to go out it's called a baby sitter pretty simple if you ask me. Why should your kids get to ruin me and my gfs evening? If this isn't possible at least have one room with closing doors where kids aren't allowed. If a casual place had a no kids policy, it would become our go to restaurant/bar instantly.

The other thing I'd like to see is BYOB allowed whether you want wine, beer or spirits. It would make choosing a place so much easier since too many places with great beer lists, don't have good wine, and many great wine places don't have good beer. Since my gf doesn't like many beers we often choose a wine place over a beer place since I love both.

Also have to agree on the music turn it down or preferably off, if I wanted to go to a concert I would have!!!!!!!

Last when a bar has multiple TV's don't have the same sports game on every TV. Let people have a choice, and if a customer asks to change one of them, do it I've left places many times that refused. Gotta wonder when bars will learn the customer is right, not the other way around.

 

Also fair. Wouldn't mind that development either in legit craft bars and breweries. Would actually make it easier to go to bars by myself if the expectation was conversation with fellow bar patrons.

 

Amen, brother.

 

I understand what you are saying but it really comes down to how well you practice the art of conversation. It's not hard to steer conversation amongst people with a pint or two in them.

 

OK, then no Wi/Fi/Smartphones. These are bigger discouragers of conversation.

 

This shows how young you are. Only bars that cater to students and people in their twenties check proof at the door. It might surprise you that many of us here are in our 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, and older and don't frequent bars that check proof at the entrance. The kind of bars we're talking about are adult bars. Nobody sane tries to bring a child into a bar that proofs at the door.

Give it time,, you'll eventually understand.

 

Anyone say craft beer?

 

No TVs and a ban on all social media, no sports paraphernalia, no BMC in any form, no cocktails or mixed drinks, no kids,no vending machines, no overly stylish interior designs, no cider, no nitro, no food and no bottles. Just draft. And just a trough in the washroom which can be found in a small hut a hop, skip and a jump outside of the bar.
That otta do it.

 

Yes.

 

Seriously. The entitled attitude of "screw you, this bar is for me" is offputting.

By and large, parents understand which places are appropriate for the kids. There will always be the outliers, being parents that aren't quite familiar enough with a place and parents that straight make bad decisions, but by and large, a parent feels enormous pressure not to have their kid crimping everyones style. Does this mean they'll never take their kid to the bar? No. It means they'll try to make it work and sometimes it will and dad gets to have a beer with dinner, and sometimes it turns into a shitstorm. They're still just people.

 

People will just sit around tapping on their smart phones more heavily discouraging conversation. I see more people at beer bars too consumed with rating there beers, posting them up on untappd, or taking pictures of the glass,than I see people too consumed with watching sportscenter with no sound.

I prefer televisions. I will sometimes stop in to a place and grab a few drinks while my wife is in the area doing some shopping or what have you. I hate posting up at the bar by myself and having nothing to look at.

If you sell beer, wine and liquor at you establishment and allow people to also bring in beer wine and liquor, what is the incentive for anyone to purchase yours at the marked up prices? That's business suicide. The only way a BYOB works is in the absence of actually selling alcohol.