What changes would you like to see in bars?

There's are very few people who act entitled as do new parents.....

 

This idea that having TV's somehow completely prevents any conversation is laughable. Can't tell you the number of times I've started up a conversation with a complete stranger simply because of something we were watching on the TV. Not everyone who visits a beer bar wants to sit around and discuss the intricacies of the beer they're drinking.

Also, I hate to break it to some of you, but there are people who equally enjoy both sports and craft beer. Sorry this bothers you.

 

I'll be 34 in April. Shockingly, I can still remember back to my early 20's. As you say (the only accurate part of your post), no sane parent would bring his kids to those types of bars. However, they are the only bars that I have ever been to where the language that I questioned would ever be a problem. All "adult bars" that I visited have been inhabited by *gasp* adults.

 

Ironically you are asking for new parents to leave their kids at home whereas the status quo seems to be to allow kids into bars. If the owner has no problem with it, who is acting entitled in this situation?

 

can you expound on that comment please?

 

Can you highlight my point any more blatantly?! What don't you understand about a bar being an adult destination? I get it, you're wife won't let you go to a bar unless she can tag along, therefore you have to drag your rug-rat along. Lucky you.

FWIW, this is a new phenomenon. There wer no kids in bars in the 1980's.

 

No frosted glasses, be more Facebook (or other social media) active as far as new beers coming in, specials, etc. and, if the bar doesn't have their menu on BeerMenus, they should at least put it on their website and keep it updated.

 

reminds me of when we took our little one to a family restaurant that happens to have a good craft beer list. I ordered an Oak aged Expresso Yeti cause I had never got to drink it before, the server brought it out kind of cold, so I waited until after I was done eating and it was going to be my 'dessert'. Well, my little one starts acting up and I sure as hell wasn't going to leave that beer untouched, so I chugged that thing before having to leave. Didn't really get to enjoy that beer.

 

I bring my family to places that are appropriate for kids, at times that are appropriate for kids. At these types of places I'm not concerned about having to explain to my son what a ********er is before he figures it out at a more reasonable age. I'm not going to ask for an extra tall high chair so he can sit next to me at a bar.

I guess I don't understand your point. This thread is about changes that you would like to see made at bars. You are arguing that kids should not be allowed at bars. I only abide by the existing rules that breweries, brew-pubs, and bars put in place. I'm failing to see how I am acting as the more entitled of the two of us.

Surprisingly, we do agree on something: I consider myself to be extremely lucky.

FWIW: One of my favorite breweries actually sells shirts for babies - see avatar. We have always felt welcomed at Jack's Abby.

 

If you want your beer served at the right temperature from tap, support real ale and move away from the draft selection, please. Otherwise, with the amount of space the extra coolers would take up and the amount of waste created by serving a whatever fancy beer you want at its optimum 50º you best be prepared to be paying quite a bit more for the 8$ pour than you already do.

 

It's called a corkage fee. Basically, depending on the law, even if you bring it, it must be served to you by the establishment, and they charge some fee to do so. I don't live in such a place, so not sure what a normal fee is though.

 

I have two great craft bars and 3 micro breweries in my town. One of the craft bars offers a 5 oz pour on everything they have. It's a lot easier to be adventurous with a 5 oz pour. I would like to see a wider range of options.

 

If you're so concerned with what other people look like and talk about at bars, maybe you should just stay home and wallow in your intolerance for others there.

 

yea, new parents think they own the world because they have some brat with them. its a very common attitude with young parents or first time parents.

 

I find it interesting that people are so concerned about obnoxious kids being in bars but no one is concerned about obnoxious adults in bars.

 

For wine that is accepted. Bringing liquor and beer is a death sentence unless they are also charging you on top of each beverage.

 

People rarely like to look at their own faults.

 

On the topic of TV's at bars....

I hate TV's at bars. I don't watch much TV at home and I certainly don't want to see it when I am out with friends. Even if I'm at a bar by myself, I'd rather not have a TV with a dancing monkey playing the tambourine on the screen. But to the folks saying that TV's limit conversations, look deeper. The TV's are there because people don't want to talk, they are a response to what costumers want. It's not like a bunch of people walked into a bar hoping to have a discussion, but a TV was one so they all stopped and starred at the dancing money, unable to engage in the conversations they were hoping to have. If people want to talk, they will. If enough people want to talk and don't want the distraction of a TV interrupting them, the bar owners will eventually turn the TV off and, at some point, get rid of the TV altogether.

To the folks who do want TV's at bars, I can understand that. It's not my cup of tea, but I do get it. I would imagine however, that even those in favor of TV's at bars are a bit annoyed by an overload of TV's (like every single wall has a TV and all of them are playing the same show/event/etc.). Perhaps I am wrong with that assumption and people do really want the option of watching college hockey on 32", 42", 52" and 62" TV's, I don't know. Beeradvocates that do like to watch TV at bars, what's your take on this?

 

Is this a bar or a departure lounge?
As a contrast;

 

BTW, my earlier post in this thread was purely tongue in cheek. Just in case you needed to be told.