Anheuser-Busch, MillerCoors Post Beer Ingredients

Discussion in 'Beer News' started by muck1979, Jun 13, 2014.

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  1. ASak10

    ASak10 Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2014 Colorado

  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Which is true, but the Germans have modified the RHG over the years. The current beer tax law spells out what can and can't be done today. They knew there was something in the barm/godisgood that they kept using before Pasteur showed it was a microorganism.

    Link to this again. It has the Biersteuergesetz.
    http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/reinheit.htm
     
  3. HRamz3

    HRamz3 Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2010 Pitcairn

    Exactly how is one supposed to "beware" with no information?
     
  4. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I saw a listing of Miller Lite ingredients years ago and understood then that they had excellent chemists on board. Just by itself, that's not bad. Not being a chemist, the list scared me a bit. I prefer more potentially volatile beers to the heavily stabilized ones.
     
  5. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    So do some of the craft breweries. Those are used to remove break material after the boil.
     
  6. rlcoffey

    rlcoffey Savant (1,207) Apr 20, 2004 Kentucky

    Dont buy from people who dont give it, would seem the obvious way.
     
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  7. HRamz3

    HRamz3 Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2010 Pitcairn

    That can be your solution. Some people like simple. I'll stick with continuing to educate myself.
     
  8. Mantooth

    Mantooth Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2011 North Carolina

    Yawn.
     
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  9. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    OK so the ingredients are posted. BFD. I don't drink it so I really don't care what's in it. What are we supposed to do, whip up a few batches and send a few tastes to one of the breweries to see if they want to hire any of us?
     
  10. Andrew041180

    Andrew041180 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    Guys, there is alcohol in beer. Pretty sure that's the most dangerous part of it.
     
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  11. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Lots of lawyers and ax-grinders around here. Sometimes I curb my anger and laugh. Cheers friend!
     
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  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am a homebrewer and I will share some of my thoughts on corn syrup. I should caveat that I have never brewed with corn syrup.

    I can’t comment as to the economics of corn syrup so I am uncertain of the term “cheap”. Maybe @jesskidden knows more here.

    I personally view corn syrup as being a “fermentable sugar”. To put a finer point on the discussion, it is my thought that corn syrup does not provide much specific flavor to the resulting beer (just like cane sugar does not provide any flavor).

    I homebrew with corn but I use ‘real’ corn, I use flaked corn. For the beers that I brew using flaked corn there is a subtle sweet graininess that the corn provides to the beer; in other words flaked corn provides some flavor.

    Cheers!
     
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  13. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    Thanks for the clarification and for the tolerance. However, I didn't decide to exclude certain styles before I tried them. It was the other way around. I realized after trying different beers, that I didn't like styles that went beyond the basics. And I do continue to try styles I don't care for to see if my palate has changed.
     
  14. Spikester

    Spikester Pooh-Bah (2,027) Jul 14, 2007 Oregon
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  15. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    What , no chocolate or coffee!
     
  16. Peter_Wolfe

    Peter_Wolfe Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2013 Oregon

    Just as with any food manufacturing process, anything added as a "process aid" that does not make it into the final product does not need to be listed as an ingredient. Clarifying agents (such as tannic acid, PVPP, etc.) are filtered out completely by kieselguhr.

    We don't use it at Anheuser Busch, but another example would be the anti-foam agent Fermcap-K, widely used in homebrewing and by craft brewers. This is a silicone based antifoam and the government stipulates that final silicone concentrations in beer be below 10 ppm. If the beer is filtered, it removes nearly 100% of the silicone and it doesn't need to be listed on the ingredients (the FDA allows for concentrations that remain "at only an insignificant level and have no technical or functional effect in the finished food").

    The cases where these agents do make it into the final product are specific to old fashioned cask ale production, where the dregs would have some concentration of isinglass or irish moss (or whatever they used) in the beer. Unless you're vegan, however, a little isinglass won't hurt you. Ironically, the Food Babe did mention fish bladders on her blog.
     
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  17. larryarms847

    larryarms847 Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2010 Illinois

    Exactly, make your own decisions people. The US (FDA specifically) allows a lot of things to go into our food that other countries don't allow, so it is your responsibility as a consumer to understand what it is exactly you are consuming. And if it's a bunch of crap going down your gullet, then don't drink another one if it makes you uncomfortable.
     
  18. KikiDuvet

    KikiDuvet Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2014

    I started drinking beer every day about a year and a half ago.
    I'm fond of what I call "girl beers" - passion fruit, apricot, cherry, raspberry, lemon beers. Although I was never a soda or even fruit juice drinker, I really started loving these fruit beers. They're refreshing and I love the slight intoxication. My favorite is Kona Brewing company's Aloha Passion Fruit.

    I thought that all beer ingredients were on the label - hops, water, and fruit juices. I learned this weekend that unlike packaged foods and bottle and canned non-alcoholic drinks, beer companies are not required to list their ingredients. I learned that ingredients I had avoided for years in food may be in the beers I have been drinking.

    The specific ingredients I avoid are corn syrup and caramel coloring, and also artificial food coloring dyes and MSG.

    The ABC link did not work for me. I am trying to get the information directly from beer companies. If anyone has a good link to send me or could just post information regarding the above 4 ingredients for any fruit flavored beers, I'd appreciate it.
     
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