Do you think Craft Beer sales will ever pass Macro Lagers?

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  1. Skoallio

    Skoallio Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2014 Florida

    If yes, when? If no, why not? Craft Beer is growing at a ridiculous rate while Macro Lagers are flat or falling. Every day more people are discovering craft beer and how much better it tastes. Even if craft beer costs more than a Budweiser, it makes up for it in taste.
     
  2. jkn09

    jkn09 Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2012 Texas

    Short answer: No - price.
    Long answer: I don't think so. Macro Lagers will most likely always be cheaper.
     
  3. Redneckwine

    Redneckwine Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 Washington

    I would like to keep the faith and answer, "Yes, craft will overtake macro lager swill eventually because it's tastier", but I think reality leans towards this: "No, the general population likes their beer cheap and bland, used as a non-offensive alcohol delivery system".
     
  4. Grodd87

    Grodd87 Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2014 Pennsylvania

    No way most ppl drink craft for the taste first and buzz second. Most ppl drinking bud do it to get drunk.
     
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  5. DieHippieDie

    DieHippieDie Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 North Carolina

  6. riverlen

    riverlen Pundit (852) Sep 16, 2009 Illinois

    When craft beer outsells macro, craft will be the new macro.

    A lot of people like the light neutral taste and reasonable abv's they get in macros. While overall macro sales are flat the lite category is about 50% of that market. Nobody there is looking for a full flavor, high carb 9% brew. And there is really nothing wrong with that, we don't all have to like the same thing.
     
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  7. ASak10

    ASak10 Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2014 Colorado

    No chance (absent some more changes in the definition from the Brewer's Association). Craft is what, 8% of the market? You'd have to convert 43% of the beer buying public to switch from buying macros. I don't see that ever happening. Plenty of people are perfectly content drinking their macro beers, and good for them. Drink what you enjoy.
     
  8. ChuckHardslab

    ChuckHardslab Maven (1,251) Jan 25, 2012 Texas

    Sadly, I agree. I have taken BMC drinking friends out and offered to buy them any craft beer they would like to try. Some take me up on the offer, but the far larger percentage aren't even remotely interested. Out of those that do, most go right back to their favorite macro brew when they order the next round. I have made a few converts though.
     
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  9. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Bingo!

    By definition, craft (according to the BA) is small, although they do have a history of ratcheting up the size limit to keep the big craft boys in the club!

    Besides, we act like the sudden craft-is-tasty thing is a post-prohibition revelation that will sometime convert everyone.

    Don't forget two things: 1) Europe (and many other parts of the world) have had stronger, heavier, hoppier ales and lagers for generations, so there was no huge "scales falling from the eyes" revelation there, and 2) light lagers are the most popular beer styles world-wide, even in Britain, the home of bitters and IPAs.
     
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  10. John_Beeryman

    John_Beeryman Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2014 Virginia

    No. Price and taste.
     
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  11. Jirin

    Jirin Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2013 Massachusetts

    If any craft breweries pass the macro breweries it will because they came up with a brew equally light and easily drinkable.
     
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  12. jzlyo

    jzlyo Pooh-Bah (2,743) Mar 4, 2012 Iowa
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    In a perfect world, of course. This is never going to be a perfect world, so even if craft got that big, its certain there would be a massive downside or several, most likely in regards to taste.
     
  13. frazbri

    frazbri Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2003 Ohio

    It's highly doubtful that "craft" would overtake "macro" in our lifetimes, but I can't envision a return to a market dominated by a handful of large brewers selling one style. (in slight variations)
     
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  14. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Getting it up to around 30% would be amazing enough (as well as a gigantic longshot :wink:), and the beer landscape would still be completely different than it is today. I'd take it in a heartbeat.
     
  15. hopsputin

    hopsputin Grand Pooh-Bah (4,403) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey
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    Not really. Its been said above, but mainly it will be a price thing. Also, many people simply aren't as concerned with taste/aroma as people who buy craft
     
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  16. Spewlander

    Spewlander Initiate (0) May 17, 2014 Minnesota
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    Of course not.
     
  17. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    No. Continued erosion of market share (of BMC) will probably continue and the growth of smaller breweries will likely remain strong. A long list of variables will affect how time determines just how things evolve. During the latest "big" recession, so-called "craft" beer did not seem to suffer, but did grow. A good question.
     
  18. HighonHops42

    HighonHops42 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2014 Colorado

    I wanna be far away if And when kids start drinking 30 packs of anything over 6% ABV
     
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  19. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    No.

    Why not? Price is one factor, but with the increasing output of BBC, Stone, and Sierra Nevada (most obviously, but others, as well), the price can certainly be competitive.

    But the main factor is one we craft aficionados don't like to acknowledge: taste. As @MNAle posted above, light lagers aren't the most popular beer in the US alone; they're the most popular beers in the UK, in Germany, and in China. (The first two happen to have quite a storied brewing history, not incidentally).

    People will continue to drink AALs primarily because it's what they enjoy. Craft will continue to grow, especially "accessible" craft options like SNPA, SA Boston Lager, Founders All Day, etc. But overtake macros?

    Sorry, but no.
     
  20. beerdedking

    beerdedking Grand Pooh-Bah (3,634) Oct 15, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    No, but of note is the size of the craft section versus the BMC section at any of my sixer/bottle shop stops. BMC is barely present...Craft must be doing something right for all these places to be turning a profit.
     
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