Fresh hop ipa FG 1.020?

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  1. MikesnoHSL

    MikesnoHSL Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2014 Florida

    I bottled my fresh hop ipa tonight after 40 days. Tasted great but I took a gravity reading 1.020?
    I even added corn sugar to dry it out. Only California ale yeast
    Could the wet hops add to the body?
    The mash:
    11lb 2-row
    6.4oz crystal 20
    3oz crystal 80
    12oz corn sugar
    Hopped with nugget, Columbus, and fresh equinox hops
     
  2. MikesnoHSL

    MikesnoHSL Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2014 Florida

    Forgot to mention beer smith says
    OG 1.067 which was the FG reading and
    FG 1.011
     
  3. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Mash temp?
    Mash duration?
    Mash thickness?
    Fermentation temp?
     
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  4. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    While I would expect this beer to finish lower, don't overlook the more important questions of taste and drinkability. If those pan out, who cares about the numbers?
     
  5. MikesnoHSL

    MikesnoHSL Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2014 Florida

    I hear that
    Mash in
    50min 150-155
    10min 165
    Mash was 1.045
    90 minute boil
    FG was 1.067~9
    Fermented in a mostly stable 68-72 environment
     
  6. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    Are you taking a final reading with a refractometer? Or hydrometer? If it's a refractometer you need to find an online calculator that will factor in all of your numbers because refractometers don't determine FG
     
  7. MikesnoHSL

    MikesnoHSL Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2014 Florida

    I only have a hydrometer
     
  8. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    If using dry yeast, did you rehydrate? If using liquid, did you make a starter, and did you oxygenate? When beers don't appear to finish, these are not trivial questions.
     
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  9. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    It's a commonly overlooked aspect of beer that most brewers aren't aware of. But numbers actually add flavor. :rolling_eyes:
     
  10. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'm not being critical here, just blunt because I'm tired. Your definition of body is off. Body is the perceived mouth feel of a beer. Think viscosity. Is it thin like alcohol, or thick like used motor oil? That's about it.

    Hops can change body, but cannot add or subtract from the OG or FG of a beer. Gravity is a measure of potential sugar. Not bitterness.

    If it were me after 12 days, and my gravity stopped at 1.020, I'd take a second read 3 days later. Still 1.020? I'd pitch another packet of yeast. At this point it can only do good to overpitch. 1.010 Is very reasonable on a beer like this. I wouldn't bottle this beer at 1.020 and I would be concerned about gushers and bottle bombs.

    Keep an eye on the way these carb up. With it being a hop-forward beer, you won't have a problem gulping a few down in the next week to 10 days. When it gets to the carb level you want, I'd be clearing fridge space for the whole batch and get them chilly. They should be good in the fridge for 6 months, or until the wife gets pissed! :slight_smile:

    I hope you bittered the bejesus out of this beer to balance the malt and the hops. I'd put money on this beer drinking a little more like a IIPA for the first month. This is probably when it'll be best and it should be drank ICE COLD.

    Live and learn. If this is the worst thing you do in your homebrewing career, you're ahead of me by a long shot.
     
  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I prefer something balanced, with 3s, 5s, and 9s, to round out flavors. So many beers these days go overboard with the 7s and ignore these other important numbers. I just don't get it. If you look at the top 250 it's all 7s. When did we get so 1-dimensional. It's like the 1980s when all you could find on the shelves was 6. There was a brand that put out an 8, and we'd drink it just to celebrate the difference, but it wasn't very good.
     
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  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    One small point. Adding sugar doesn't dry a beer out. But substituting sugar for some of the base malt does, in comparison with the original recipe.
     
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Good advice. I'll add that it may help to put the yeast in a small starter first, let it get vigorous, and pitch the whole enchilada. The added yeast may be less sluggish if they start out in a low alcohol environment. Pitch the whole starter rather than crash to floc out so the yeast stay active. Make a small starter so you are not altering the beer too much. Don't go crazy on starter oxidation b/c you are adding it to your beer. I never used this trick to fix a gravity problem but it did once help me fix a diacetyl issue.
     
  14. MikesnoHSL

    MikesnoHSL Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2014 Florida

    I used a 2qt starter I made with Cali ale 1. There was plenty of healthy yeast. Fermentation lasted 3-4 days straight. But the beer tastes good and as long as they don't explode I'm happy
     
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  15. MikesnoHSL

    MikesnoHSL Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2014 Florida

    Also I took a FG reading every 15 days and it was constant at
    1.020
     
  16. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    How sure are you about your thermometer? Maybe you mashed at a higher temp than you think?
     
  17. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    At this point when you're reading gravity, you need to make sure there aren't any bubbles in it. I think I got angry at a post a few months ago about sticking bottled beer in a blender. :slight_smile: I believe you that it's still probably really close to 1.020. If the beer tastes good, I wouldn't waste any more towards gravity readings. Drink up!
     
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