New Glarus Two Women recipe?

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  1. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Anyone have any idea what the ingredients are in this beer beyond what their description provides (Bohemian Floor-Malted Pilsner malt and Hallertauer Mittelfrueh hops)? I suspect there's some CaraMunich in there, but not sure how much. Yeast is clean and fairly neutral... 34/70? Any help is appreciated.
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    It is a fairly dark beer for just Weyermann Bohemian Floor-Malted. I just did a double decocted beer using this malt about a month ago, and it is much paler than Two Women. Plus I get more sweetness out of the beer. But I never really thought about it as crystal or cara-type malt.

    New Glarus has been fairly mum when it comes to discussing recipes, so I would not expect to get much from them.
     
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    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    That sweetness, paired with what I perceive as a slight toastiness, has me thinking it may be a caramel malt. Regardless, not sure in what percentage, though. What were you thinking it might be that gives it that color and sweetness?
     
  4. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Because New Glarus distributes to just about every retail outlet that I visit, I drink Two Women fairly often and have wondered about the color. I wasn't sure, and part of the reason I did a double decoction on the Kolsch-style beer I brewed last month was that it was my first time using the Weyermann Floor Malted and I wondered if decoction had something to do with color development in Two Women. I sit here now sipping my very tasty, pale yellow beer that looks nothing like Two Women. I don't actually know if New Glarus does any decoction (I'm signed up for a tour in November -- maybe I'll ask), but it did little to darken my beer.

    Yeah -- there is a toastyness to it that goes with the sweetness and the more I think about it, the more I am reminded of an Octoberfest-type beer that I once brewed. It lacks the sweetness of New Glarus Staghorn Octoberfest, so if it is a cara malt, it is a defter touch. I sort of wonder if there is a dark Munich malt in there.
     
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    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Yea, definitely not talking the degree of sweetness (and roastiness) I find in their Staghorn. Could be dark Munich...that malt does have a perceptible degree of toastiness. I suspect (and think I have even heard) that they perform a double decoction on this beer, but I'm not 100% sure.
     
  6. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    They use a custom made specialty malt from Weyermann. Not available to home brewers.
     
  7. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Source of this knowledge? And is it used all by itself?
     
  8. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I don't remember the source. And not sure how many malts are used.
     
  9. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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  10. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    It wouldn't be much of a collaboration with stock malt.
     
  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    That's an interesting point. I never really thought about the collaboration in this beer between maltster and brewer really differing from any other beer. I assumed it was sort of nominal. Regardless, this lager seems too dark to be just Pilsner malt.
     
  12. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Try 70% of the pils, 25% dark Munich, 5% Caramunich, WLP-833. That came close. Oh, Hallertau Mittlefrueh for the hops, 25 IBU.

    Then you can decide what to try next.
     
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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  14. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Used the floor-malted dark. Not a huge fan. It is very toasty...
     
  15. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Perhaps a blend of the dark and the regular...?
     
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    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Stuff really scared me off after the first use. Since then I have stuck to combinations of "regular" Weyermann pilsner and Munich malts...and the occasional use of some CaraMunich II -- and have generally been much happier with the outcomes. Sometimes I think that Weyermann knows full well that it can get U.S. "experimental" places to brew with any new malt it puts out...so it puts out something new pretty frequently, without always relying on any real basis and/or tradition (despite what the marketing says).
     
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