The Locals HINTS AND HAULS THREAD

Playing Devil's Advocate, was it going on the "offensive"? I have to imagine that he didn't come up with that post without it being reactionary. If it really was going on the offensive, just a reaction to the fact that they haven't sold out yet, then that's absolutely petty and ridiculous.

If it was a defensive maneuver reacting to people trashing on him/his operation/his beer/whatever, I still don't agree with it, especially how he felt the need to spell out all of the expensive things that go into making his beer, but I find it a lot more understandable.

 

Business owners (almost) never win by making posts like it. In this particular circumstance, it is certainly better to keep quiet as their is nothing to be gained. His beer is selling and will sell out.

 

I don't like it when breweries get into the expense of their beer. Why should that be my problem as the consumer? I also don't give a rip what anybody's margins are. Toppling Goliath has been doing this more lately with justifying how much pseudosue costs and I'm tired of it. It's a great beer but not worth $8+ for a 22oz bomber. It's an APA, of which there are multiple one that I like just as much for cheaper. But the price of hops and this and that... the beer sells anyway, and people are still willing to pay with the price increases. more power to em', I guess.

 

I lean the opposite way. I don't care if it costs him a penny to make the beer, if people are willing to pay $35 a bottle then by all means go ahead and do so (note: doesn't mean I'm willing to pay that much). Whether or not that's a sound business strategy I don't know (more affordable prices will presumably bring more customers in the door and turn off fewer people) but I'm not especially bothered by it. No different than somebody offering a ridiculous trade, let the crickets speak for themselves.

 

ISO $8 bombers.... of anything. Man I love being in PA.

 

Other than Lagunitas, not much is less than $8 here.

 

I don't see this as opposite anything said, just the other end of the scale with the same point. The point is let the market determine your pricing; if you end up taking a loss that's your problem if you make a killing that's your benefit, but the consumer needn't burdened with the knowledge either way.

 

Yes, until you take too many losses and go out of business.

Educating consumers can be done with grace. And should be.

 

I don't agree, knowing what goes into a beer doesn't make me more willing to pay extra for it. I'm either willing to pay the asking price or I'm not based on style and my own personal taste. If it is delicious and it took the person 5 minutes to make it, I'd pay more for it than something that took 10 years to make but I hate it.

 

That is fine. Free market says you don't have to buy anything you don't want to. (except insurance, but that is a different discussion)

However, if the masses agree with you and choose not to buy the 10 year beer, that brewer will soon be out of work.

 

Yeah that's fair. I guess maybe some people are more comfortable paying high prices for ingredients vs. for the owner/brewer to get a new car?

 

I don't get there nearly as often as I'd like (its still about an hour and a quarter away), but I don't think the brewery has much that isn't distributed. They have releases that never end up getting into distro, but those don't sit around at the brewery.

Now, the tap list at WW is truly, truly impressive. They usually do multiple batches on draft typically before bottling a batch, plus they do a lot of stuff that's never been bottled. Its not unusual for them to have 20-25 beers on tap between their two locations (which are 2-3 blocks apart), only 5-10 of which have previously been bottled before.

 

Eh, to some extent. But a lot of time I'm having to make a decision about buying a beer without having had the beer before. I can certainly (and, of course, do) use BA and untappd and my friends for opinions, but if I know that the beer is barreled in white wine barrels and its an actual wild (not just an innoculated sour) and its had raspberries added, and those are all flavors that I tend to enjoy, then that goes into my decision-making process. Mainly though it isn't so much that I care about the costs to the brewer itself as it is about understanding the flavor profile of the beer (prior to having had a chance to drink it).

 

That's true, but I think the point is the same. I will pay more for a raspberry wild ale that I've never had than a smoked beer even if the smoked beer costs more to make.

 

I feel your pain.....

 

#VBS

 

The Locals educational debate for this week is Beer Pricing I guess? I have no problem with what a brewer charges, I only get annoyed when two different stores within half an hour of me have a 20% price difference on something (I saw Tweak at one place for $18.99 and another for $15.99 earlier this year).

 

LOCALS ROUND 6 ALMOST ANNIVERSARY TARGETS ARE OUT!

A few quick reminders...

Shipping window is now through the end of June.
Swag is not required, though if anyone made any mention of preference, or their shirt size, I included that with your target information, so don't see that as a requirement.
The individuals who expressed interest in staying within the limit I have mentioned in your BMs as such, and are "quarantined" into your own version of the round, so try to stay within the 150oz 6 bottle limit
If you want any additional information or if I missed anything, please let me know. I tried to be as accurate as possible.

A couple target clues:
Nobody is shipping to a neighboring state as defined by the locals directory
Nobody is sending to a previous target as defined by the locals directory, however I didn't eliminate the possibility of sending to someone who previously sent to you
Nobody is sending to themselves
And lastly just in case it's worth noting for anyone who may track all boxes, the boxes don't go "full circle", as it's not something I even thought about until I was about half way done assigning targets (as in, for example, you can't start with one user, and trace boxes around and get back to that user and have hit everyone in the round)

With that said, here is your list of participants...

_RL_
ajaylock
Clarkson
Corriecrafts
Damian74Shensky
dwmetsfan13
EA728
Hoppyseb
JasonR1975
jawas
JNForsyth
Kramerbarthomer
Lehighace06
MCMASTERSANCHEZ
Mikexw
mklisz
ncpogs
NJB145
rspauldi
treznor
UCDru
valrxman
vitaminvert
xICooRsYIx

Let the fun begin!

 

So I don't recall limits or if I said I'd stick to them or not

 

If there's no mention if it in your BM, you aren't expected to stick to the limits (6 bottles, 150oz max). Anyone is still free to abide by them as it is the theme of the round, but it's one of those "the rules can be extended..." scenarios like we've seen in the past (I think @whyteboy003 knows something about this...). It should still be expected/understood that sticking to the limits is allowed even for people outside of that subset of the round, those individuals just really didn't want to send a small box to someone who sent a large box, or receive a large box from someone who receives a small box, or scenarios along those lines, as they knew for sure they had to stick to a smaller box