Green Flash Cellar 3 Series - "Silva Stout"

Just what I want to taste in my beer - yogurt and butterscotch !!

 

Well, add another one to the list. Werther's Original Stout.

 

Pretty much spot on...was sipping on mine and waxing nostalgic about weekends at my grandparent's place binging on Werther's till I was almost sick. Unfortunately, ensuing nausea as I drain poured a $20 beer only helped to further reinforce the nostalgia.

 

Whether this is possibly related to the diacetyl/infection issue is something I leave to the experts. For me, it is at least some tentative evidence for the existence of a merciful God, who was obviously trying to spare you from having to drink a third bad bottle. If this God was also just, and not just merciful, you might have found $20 or even $60 in the mess of liquid and broken glass on your basement floor.

 

Yeah I think Green Flash lost alot of customers on this failure on the QA/QC front.

 

Can we do a poll on who got a bad bottle and who didn't?

 

pretty sure that luck is probability taken personally.

I saw this report on 20/20 once. They had people rate the taste of Strawberry yogurt on a scale of 1-10. Almost all of them had numbers above 6. It was actually vanilla yogurt. The more someone tells you a beer tastes like Butter, or cat piss, or ass the more likely you are to take that information and apply it to your own tastes. I didn't get any butter taste from the Silva Stout. I just thought if tasted on a figurative level like shit.

 

Did it ever occur to you they were just being nice? Your strawberry yogurt is outstanding! They turn their head and ask their friend "did you even get the strawberry taste?" haha... that is how i picture it.

Anyway kidding aside, as I said, the 2 guys I poured for had no idea this problem or thread existed and I poured it blind for them. It was a dark beer in the glass, that is all they knew. Both of them wanted to pass on it.

I do agree though, the power of suggestion is real. I just don't believe it is in this case, or with most of us beer enthusiasts. We're all pretty dissecting/subjective people on here I would think. I also think we can tell the difference between shit/good/great.

 

I have two bottles of the batch bottled on 2/16/15. They had no butter flavor and tasted like a solid BA stout. Would I pay $20 for a bottle again? No

 

Tried a bottle on Tuesday nite. While it wasn't the butter bomb, it wasn't a beer is drink again. I struggled thru 10oz of what tasted like a really bad bourbon. Some after taste resembled the butter everyone speaks of but the nose holy popcorn. Needless to say it found its way to my septic system. Thoroughly disappointed , glad it was just the one. But now I'm curious if I could find a good one

 

I think we can surmise from the amount of negative posts on this thread that it's a small majority of the bottles. Also, a poll wouldn't help because of the subjectivity factor. Some people who had infected bottles but are unfamiliar with diacetyl aromas and flavors might have drank the whole thing not realizing there was something technically wrong with the beer, therefore voting that their bottle was fine.

 

had it on tap in San Diego Sunday. I did not finish it. Afterwards I found this thread and was glad that glass was given to me, but pissed I bought a bottle that I am sitting on. Was a butter bomb as stated above...I instantly knew the beer was not right. ugh.

 

Would love to hear about the contamination situation going on here Mike.

 

It's funny that you mentioned the bottle itself because once I got mine home I noticed that the bottle is really weird. It's not round but more oblong. It looks normal, but when I went to put it in the cabinet I noticed that the lower portion of the bottle isn't round at all.

Probably just a small defect and nothing of substance. I just thought it was kind of odd. I've never seen a bottle be misshapen to the extent that this one is.

 

Now I am scared to spend my money on this..

 

This was exactly how I felt. Drank one this weekend at a share and that same theme was pretty universal amongst the two others that tried it.

 

Just got a reply back from Mike Hinkley over at Green Flash. He and I have exchanged a few emails regarding the matter. I had opened one of three bottles I had purchased and it was more than apparent that the bottle was bad.

I have been providing him with some of the bottle/retailer information and addressed my concern on the remaining two bottles I had; to which he replied:

"Go ahead and open them in due course. 99% of the bottles are fantastic."

Am hoping this to be the case but he will continue to follow up with me and they are apparently continuing to investigate.

 

Well i guess just 99% of ba'ers got the bad ones. I happen to be one of the 1% that got good ones.

 

I've no trouble believing most of the bottles are fine. But the owner's asserting that "99% of the bottles are fantastic" seems like wishful thinking at best, and even a bit irresponsible at worst, given the number of reports, from every region in the country, that suggest otherwise. I fully grant that the consumers who are dissatisfied with a product tend to be the loudest critics, and thus skew perception about that product; but to dismiss this issue out of hand, as that sort of comment connotes, is unfortunate. Anyway, almost a month after the fact, I'm still waiting for my own reply from the brewery.

 

Read enough of these posts today to pop the bottle I've been storing in ideal conditions since purchase. Huge whiff of buttered popcorn upon opening, and I'm nervous as hell - but it actually tastes OK? I mean, it's not mindblowingly good, but I don't remember it being mindblowingly good when I had one fresh (though I'm also not seeing any "butter" in my notes, so not sure if they were different, slight age is bringing out the diacetyl elements, or it's confirmation bias from this thread).

There's this little hint on the back end that sorta suggests it'll go tart with time, but I won't lie; I'm not quite as disappointed I'm sitting on three bottles of this now as I was when I popped the cork. Drainpour is a strong word for this one; the "fresh" BA Hibernation I had a couple of months ago was clearly whacked in some way, wet cardboard through and through, and I couldn't finish that one with a group of friends in tow. I'll probably finish most of this one tonight, will probably drink another reasonably soon with friends, then see if the other two turn into some sort of bizarre bourbon sour butterscotch stout. I might even buy an intentionally-produced bottle like that if I saw the label from a brewery I trusted, though, so there's that. I might not be a good addition to the poll on this one. Sorry, everyone - butter confirmed, drainpour denied.

Devil's advocate for the people who absolutely hate it (and haven't already commented to this effect): did you have the original, and could fond memories of an undisputed golden whale off the market for years possibly skewed expectations, not unlike a Star Wars movie after years of inactivity and nostalgia?

Don't get me wrong, I'll take Coronado's BA Stupid over this any day of the week, but drainpour seems harsh. No Green Flash fanboy here; haven't searched for the Alpine with nearly as much gusto since my last few underwhelming Nelson experiences...