Trip to Belgium. Advice for newbie?

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  1. bennetj17

    bennetj17 Pooh-Bah (1,790) Oct 30, 2005 Arizona
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    Hi, I'm looking for advice from experienced folk here. Finally making a trip to Europe, and will be to taking the train from London to Brussels for 3 days in Belgium. We are arriving on a Tuesday morning and plan to rent a car and drive to Poperinge to explore the area and will be staying one night. Coming back to Brussels the next afternoon and will stay there 2 nights before going back to London. I wanted to hit up Westvleteren and perhaps St Bernardus while out west, and Cantillon, Moeder Lambic, Delices Et Caprices in Brussels.

    Do any of you have other recommendations or advice? We were originally going to try and stay at St Bernardus, but it is booked up, so we were thinking a bed and breakfast in Poperinge looks nice for the first night. Since we have the car for a day we were thinking Rodenbach might be a good stop as well.
     
  2. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    We ditched the car. Took the train out to Poperinge; rented bikes. Easy ride from the center of town out to Westvleteren on quiet roads through the hop fields. Lunch at In de Vrede then we rode out to Watou to check out St Bernardus and Brouwerij Van Eecke, back to Poperinge for a coffee before catching the train back to Brussels for dinner.
     
  3. jumboj11

    jumboj11 Initiate (0) May 24, 2009 Georgia

    @atpca Just for my own curiosity... assuming you can make a reservation, are you able to pick up beer at Westvleteren on a bike or do you have to have a car? I feel like I've read conflicting experiences on that...
     
  4. rodzm14

    rodzm14 Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2014 Washington

    Well Im note sure how you will be able to pick up two wooden crates and carry them on your bike....Id be interested in seeing how this can be done I heard from multiple people that a car is not necessary but that they can use your passport information as a means of verifying information. Ive heard that all you have to do is tell them that you have no method of transportation and youre using either a bike or public transport. Should work out and again Ive heard this confirmed through multiple people on these forums. Alternatively you can go to the cafe and they normally sell 6 packs (2 max per person) but that its not a guarantee that it will be Westleveteren 12 as sometimes they have only 8 or blond or even a combination of them. Its a crapshoot
     
  5. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    Like @rodzm14 mentioned, you don't *need* a car, but it'd sure help. We didn't get reservations, just went to see the place, look at the visitors center and eat & drink "on prem" at In de Vrede. Probably would have gotten a 6 pack from the gift shop, but no beer to go that day.
     
  6. hoser

    hoser Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2003 Canada (AB)

    If you are staying one night the B&B St Bernardus is amazing. St Bernardus there really isn't much to see at the brewery.
     
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  7. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    I still had fun on the tour and the grounds at the brewery are really nice to just walk around. They give you bikes to ride wherever too. Watou is a cool very very small town. The B&B is amazing, I can't recommend this enough. Plus they will set up a belbus (a group taxi service) for you whenever you want for where ever you want to go. The food in Watou is really great too, only a couple of places open per night though. The little convientant store called Spar, and the prices for single beers are insanely cheap.

    Also I enjoyed the hops museum in Poperinge and it is a great town.
     
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  8. jumboj11

    jumboj11 Initiate (0) May 24, 2009 Georgia

    This was going to be our plan, but we're coming at the end of September and it looks like In de Vrede is closed the last two weeks of the month. :slight_frown: We're staying at St. Bernardus for two nights, (9/24-9/25). Any other bike-able locations besides De Struise? I'm planning on stopping there when they're open on 9/26 en route to Bruges.
     
  9. hoser

    hoser Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2003 Canada (AB)

    There is not much to see at de Struise either, one amazing place to see is de Dolle Brouwers they have open hours on Sunday.
     
  10. jumboj11

    jumboj11 Initiate (0) May 24, 2009 Georgia

    yeah, they were on the list, but we'll already be in Bruges by then and I'm not sure I'll be able to convince the wife to backtrack for the day. She's really excited about Bruges.
     
  11. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    Oh Bummer. For Beer, Watou with St Bernardus and Van Eecke is in close reach, tours both places are pretty limited so check in advance. There's also lots of WW1 history and a number of well marked and documented non-beer bike rides.

    http://www.fietsroute.org/Cycling.php?fietsroutes=POProute
     
  12. hoser

    hoser Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2003 Canada (AB)

    Van Eecke is pretty cool have toured it twice and your wife should be excited about Brugge. Romantics call it Venice of the north. When in Watou or Poperinge try to have a meal at the Hommelhof.
     
  13. barrybeerdog

    barrybeerdog Pundit (941) Aug 17, 2012 South Dakota

    Your wife will love Brugge, it is a beautiful small city.

    If you have time, make the walk to Vlissinghe Tavern (outside city center). It is the oldest tavern in Brugge, they just celebrated their 500 yr anniversary this summer!! It is not a great "craft beer" tavern, but the old-old interior makes up for that, plus they have a great beer garden in the back.

    Also, don't miss Michelangelo's sculpture, "Madonna of Bruges" located at Church of our Lady. This is his one & only sculpture outside of Italy & was stolen by the ****s in WWII and recovered.

    Enjoy your trip! Cheers.
     
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  14. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    i'd disagree :slight_smile:

    i think the best plans would could have for their saturday is to start at De Dolle at 2 PM, get the tour, drink for a bit, and then take a cab to de Struise. De Struise has 24 taps and after the last Flemish Food Bash, the tap list was all whales. get Urbain on a good day and you'll have the experience of a lifetime.

    and yes, i would skip Westvleteren alltogether. so bloody overrated.
     
  15. dmsulli

    dmsulli Zealot (628) Jan 30, 2012 Colorado
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    Thinking about a Thursday day trip from Brussels to Poperinge. Is there anything I should be aware of as far as anything being closed on that particular day out of all the "big names" (In de Vrede, De Stuise, St. Bernardus?)?
     
  16. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    In de Vrede is closed on Thursdays and Fridays except in August only on Thursdays. Also their 2 week vacation in September.

    http://indevrede.be/kalender.php?lang=en
     
  17. hoser

    hoser Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2003 Canada (AB)

    Are you talking about the bar near the school? Urbain took us for lunch there and well hung out at the school with him, although a nice visit, wasn't that impressed. This was in 2011.
     
  18. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    i just spent a month living in west Flanders, slugger. :slight_smile:
    things have changed.
    Molenhof, that bar/restaurant, is the de facto Struise brewpub. when i was there, Tilquin and Double Black were 2 of the beer on tap. not too shabby. Cuvee Delphine was put on the day i left. Cask strength.
    the schoolhouse in 2011 is not the same as it is today. Saturdays are tap days from 2-6. on a bad week, we had the following on tap:
    Pannepot
    Pannepeut
    Double Black
    Single Black
    a few beer from Alvinnes
    a few hard to get beer, like Lion's Claws
    CDOS (40% abv beer)
    24 run through Intelligentsia coffee.

    and i have left out a bunch more.

    no one left unhappy.

    i've been to In De Vrede twice. equally mediocre both times. i lived a 1 hr walk from there. i went there on my 2nd day and didn't return again. so take that as you wish.

    De Dolle? I went 3 times. i loved everything about it. different from De Struise. Fewer beer, but an incredibly great property and Kris is a character. so, without any bias, i'd do 1/2 saturday at De Struise. 1/2 saturday at De Dolle and leave very drunk and VERY happy
     
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  19. lwhcchh

    lwhcchh Devotee (380) Aug 31, 2010 Oklahoma

    If In de Vrede is going to be closed, I would skip the trip to Westvleteren unless you have a reservation and can meet the purchase requirements. Spend a day and night in Bruges, Ghent or Antwerp.
     
  20. dmsulli

    dmsulli Zealot (628) Jan 30, 2012 Colorado
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    How does the Assumption of Mary (August 15th) holiday affect things in Brussels? Is there going to be anything open while I'm there or should I take a day trip somewhere else?
     
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