Are "Brewery Only" Breweries Bad for Craft Beer?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by SteveB24, Aug 6, 2015.

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Are "Brewery Only" Breweries Bad for Craft Beer?

  1. Yes

    17 vote(s)
    5.7%
  2. No

    279 vote(s)
    94.3%
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  1. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    Very good points, there is a remarkable amount of arbitrary purchasing in the beer world, having said that, beer stores are often under pressure to take as much of these year round beers as they possibly can or else they won't get to purchase the specialty releases made by said breweries, and these bottles are desperately needed to get customers into the store (basing this on many conversations with several sure owners.), so carrying old bottles seems almost inevitable for shops that want to stay in the good graces of the distributors.
     
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  2. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    idk about massive business, but to a craft store that doesn't do huge volume, several hundred dollars lower in sales in a week can make a tangible difference.
     
  3. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    This is pretty much a preconceived version of the point I wanted to make. The less breweries pay distributers, the less their prices (retail price points) are; therefore they can produce, and then sell, more beer.
     
  4. iRun2Beer

    iRun2Beer Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2015 Minnesota

    Yea, I didn't consider that. I also have talked to some owners that have that same dilemma. That's really unfortunate. This points out a bigger problem with the power that distributors have...
     
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  5. sharpski

    sharpski Grand Pooh-Bah (3,100) Oct 11, 2010 Oregon
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    If your bottleshop carrying beer from dozens/hundreds of breweries is affected noticeably by a single brewery's release, it may be a sign your market can't really support a bottleshop. Special releases, events, festivals, etc. are usually a sign of a healthy craft beer scene, but if the extra attention at the brewery comes at the expense of other beer sellers, that sounds like too little local business to go around.
     
  6. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    NO, because these beers are what go on to become the next shelf beer.
     
  7. jakecattleco

    jakecattleco Grand Pooh-Bah (3,749) Sep 3, 2008 California
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    Do they allow crowler/growler fills of said beer? If yes, then definitely NO.
     
  8. JAntony345

    JAntony345 Initiate (0) May 1, 2010 New York

    Yes, because I loathe my Fedex bill at the end of the month :slight_frown:
     
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  9. Premo88

    Premo88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,682) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    hahahaha ... welcome to capitalism at its best ... and woe is the middle man caught in the tide of a true free market
     
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  10. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Don't know if it is good or bad for the industry, but definitely bad for the local beer store. Before the brewery you mention came into existence, I was dependent on out of state IPAs that may or may not be old. The days of sifting through bottles looking for indecipherable or non-existent bottle on dates are over I go right to the brewery now and get awesome fresh beer.
     
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  11. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Over 30 states allow some form of self distribution by breweries. Hey, NY is one with the proper license.
    https://www.brewersassociation.org/government-affairs/laws/self-distribution-laws/
     
  12. trxxpaxxs

    trxxpaxxs Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2010 New York

    Nope. Also, I'm curious as to why you care so much about the beer store having a dip in sales.

    Big deal, sales dip for a weekend.

    That's a problem with your beer store, not the brewery.
     
  13. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    I suspect that brewery only releases are an important source of income for small breweries. Anything that helps small breweries profit is good for craft beer.
     
  14. leroybrown10

    leroybrown10 Pooh-Bah (2,416) Jan 26, 2008 Missouri
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    You get a Bud Light, you get a Bud Light, everybody gets a Bud Light.

    {insert Oprah meme here}
     
  15. DelMontiac

    DelMontiac Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2010 Oklahoma

    I was also thinking about that store owner saying sales were down due a brewery only release. Maybe so, but I don't buy any less beer to take home just becuase I've had time to stop in at the brewery for a couple of beers. Stopping in for a beer anywhere is more like a "bonus" beer run for me. I still maintain my home supply at a certain level.
     
  16. TheHumanTorch

    TheHumanTorch Devotee (353) Jul 19, 2013 Connecticut

    Breweries in NY are allowed to self-distribute
     
  17. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    As long as the beer is good, I'm cool with it, create a buzz and the "I gotta have it" factor
     
  18. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I say let the small brewer brew, and not have to worry about dropping off and picking up kegs, or about getting slim profit from a distributor.

    Buy your local beer at the brewery, release or regular lineup, it's more fun, you meet great folks, and you reward the brewer more directly.

    I voted no to mean I believe brewery releases are very good for craft beer.
     
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  19. gibgink

    gibgink Pooh-Bah (1,581) Oct 27, 2014 Missouri
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    I can see a store that is in the general vicinity to a brewery take a slight dip in sales if the particular brewery is "big" enough to generate lines at their releases, but I don't think it would be extremely detrimental.

    I like brewery only releases myself. It allows someone to try a beer and then trade for more beer!
     
  20. mwa423

    mwa423 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Ohio

    So, how would this bottle shop owner feel if all the bottles were put into distribution and he just didn't get any of special beer X because he didn't sell normal beer Y? I'm with most of the other people here, good for whatever brewery it is that apparently has releases so rare it changes the purchasing habits of the entire local craft market.
     
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