Märican Biere Bought and Drunk...

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  1. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Maybe not on the Germany forum, but I'm really surprised at how often that one comes up on Beer Talk. What the hell is up with that?
     
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  2. -N8

    -N8 Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2014 Germany

    Ah Dunkel... lots a varieties to enjoy.

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  3. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    Yay! True words, I was just curios because people here disliked a beer because it went aiganst what they thought a "Dunkles" should be. But I myself tasted such a huge variety within one region...

    Oh, and even in germany (outside of bavaria, off course:wink:) many people mean a dunkles Hefeweizen when they say "Dunkel". Maybe that is because dark Lagers are kind of an oddity these days, excluding Schwarzbier.
     
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  4. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Yes, I imagine it's due to exactly what @Lurchus said about Germany, is what happens in the US as well. To be honest, I think I may also have assumed Dunkel, was Dunkelweizen a few years ago, I don't remember because I didn't actively seek it out.

    Most of the time anything with the word "Dunkel" I've seen has been a Dunkelweizen here in the US. And most probably know of Weihenstephan's Dunkelweizen, it's high rated and I see it on tap quite often.

    I have seen more Munich Dunkels being brewed lately though, or at least I've been paying attention to more of them. I had Jack's Abby's Red Tape Lager, their original beer, which is an excellent Munich Dunkel.
     
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  5. -N8

    -N8 Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2014 Germany

    I am amused when visiting US friends order a "hefe" from local German bar keeps.. they always get confused looks instead of a bier.

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  6. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Why?

    Also, as an aside. I had asked @JackHorzempa this in another thread, but has anyone had Traunstein's Oktoberfest (it's a pale version)? My local bar has it on tap, but since they also have 10 Oktoberfest beers on tap I was hesitant to try it in lieu of some of the others.
     
  7. -N8

    -N8 Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2014 Germany

    "Hefe" isn't a thing. Hefeweizen or Weizenbier is a thing. Hefe isn't.
     
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  8. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    I've heard the tearm "Hefe" pretty often in Thüringen, and in general it is common in colloquial speach in parts of eastern germany. Nothing strange there.
     
  9. -N8

    -N8 Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2014 Germany

    it generally calls for further clarification around here (Stuttgart)
     
  10. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    @AlcahueteJ, I'd be all over that Traunseiner beer. Their Helles is the finest we can get in NYC, so I'm sure the fest bier is more than worthwhile.
     
  11. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Lack of true passion for a hobby full of tickers and poseurs. :grinning:
     
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  12. pthread1981

    pthread1981 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2007 Germany

    Yeah, this is pretty regional. In the north you can order a Hefe and get what you expect, but I tried that in the south once and was met with a puzzled look.
     
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  13. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    My opinion may have a lot to do with the beer not being such a typical Ami Okto. I still like Spaten best, but I'm glad to have the SN this year.
    I was just noting that of the recent 12 packs I've bought SN is the majority.
    I saw Brooklyn's alongside Victory -- guess I should have opted for the Brooklyn, but...
    This was how I recalled Victory from the past; very much along the lines of Capital in my area, but my resultant reacquaintance was not as good an experience as yours.
    I've been able to side-step Sam this year, too focused on new labels (Schlafly was a pleasant discovery), but where SN Okto is flying off shelves around here, there seems to be a huge abundance of Sam. Probably no worry about not getting to try it at least once.
     
  14. mmmbirra

    mmmbirra Pundit (877) Apr 19, 2009 Italy

    My wife tried to order a weisse at the Augustiner Keller a few years back(that's what the Italians call it.) She was met with what was likely a very similar puzzled look.
     
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  15. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I guess it seems all the more weird to me because I remember the days when a (Munich) Dunkel was one of the few beer styles available, so it's always been one of the 'big ones' in my eyes.
     
  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Michael,

    A Dunkel will be part of the upcoming Straub Legacy Sampler Pack:

    “Dunkel

    Our brand new Straub Dunkel is styled after the classic dark beers of Munich. "Dunkel" is German for dark, fitting with its amber-brown color, that sets it apart from the other famous beer of Munich - Helles, its pale counterpart. This beer is highly drinkable with slightly sweet, toasted bread flavors, balanced by mild, noble-hop bitterness. Flavorful, medium-bodied, and smooth, this beer pairs well with a wide range of foods from traditional German fairs like brats and kraut, to grilled meats, and flavorful cheeses.

    • ABV: 5.2%
    • Beginning Gravity: 12.5 Plato
    • Ending Gravity: 2.8 Plato
    • Bitterness Units: 24 IBU
    • Color: Amber-Brown
    • Malt: Munich, Vienna, Chocolate Malt
    • Hops: Hallertau
    • Yeast: Traditionr”
    Cheers!
     
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  17. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Allright! You know I'll be all over that one. Thanks!
     
  18. Beric

    Beric Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2013 Massachusetts

    I'm guessing most of your US friends pronounce it as 'heff' which is pretty far off the German. It drives me bananas when I hear people talking about "heffs".
     
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  19. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Pun intended?
     
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  20. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    The most common slang I usually hear is "Heff-ays." Can't say it bothers me all that much as I'm sure I butcher the pronunciation for a lot of Belgian beers.
     
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