Hardywood's colossal screw up today

I'm surprised people are as upset as they are given KYXmas will be seeing distribution. I really do get it if you drove from out of state, were in line hours early, and didn't get it. That makes sense to me. But there seem to be a lot of local Hardywood regulars who are swearing to boycott over the beer that will be in stores selling out too quickly while the brewery-only release lasted the whole day.

 

You're in essence saying that beer is not very important. That's a pretty condescending attitude. If you're not passionate about beer that's fine, but there are many people who are passionate about it and are capable of discussing it in a measured and civil manner.

I would assume that you are relatively passionate about beer yourself (why else would you be here?). If that's the case, then maybe think twice before implying that a beer-related issue is of little importance simply for the fact that it's about beer.

 

I do think it's a drastic overreaction to threaten to boycott buying their beer (LOL at anyone saying that), but do you really not understand why people would be upset? They stood in line in the cold for hours and didn't get any and now have to go chase it around town. It adds insult to injury to know that you were there at the brewery on release day and they didn't have any for you, even though there is more in existence waiting to be distributed elsewhere.

 

You're proving my point. Let's all take a step back and remember why we're here. I understand people are upset, but there's no reason to throw each other under the bus.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/respect_beer/

"First, Keep It Real.

As stated, beer is the ultimate social lubricant and a beverage that's meant to be fun, enjoyed, and celebrated. However, some who "mature" into craft beers tend to become beer snobs (different than beer geeks) and take things a bit too seriously, thus giving the rest of us a bad name."

 

Proving your point? That what, the conversation on this thread is more serious than it should be? That the OP shouldn't be frustrated, because hey, it's just beer? Or if he is frustrated, he shouldn't post about it here because hey, it's just beer?

I don't really know who is giving craft-beer lovers a bad name, and I don't know who craft-beer lovers have a bad name with. My guess is that I wouldn't care either way.

I haven't seen anyone on this thread threaten to boycott. There is an OP lamenting a brewery's decision (and an apology from said brewery, confirming the OP's frustration) and then a bunch of posters agreeing or disagreeing with the OP, giving their reasons for their opinions.

Then you and another poster come along to remind us that we shouldn't be discussing it seriously because it's just beer.

If there is a conversation happening that you find to be "too serious", just avoid interjecting next time.

 

So math with me OP--were you logistically far enough forward in line that you would have been able to buy this beer if the limit had remained 2pp? If not then you're just complaining.

What the fuck is a cup?

 

8 ounces if I'm not mistaken.

 

I think you misunderstood the gist of my post: the bottom line is that since the KYX had a significantly lower bottle count it should have obviously had a lower pp limit. Seems like they got the AB limit correct as it made it all day long.

As far as being mad at the brewery, I ain't. I made the decision not to go early on because I didn't wanna have to line up at 9-10am to get an allotment. At the end of the day, the brewery did exactly what they set out to do- which is sell every bottle they had. That's a great business model and why they are thriving in a crowded RVA craft beer scene.

As far that theoretical person #1001- I guess it kinda depends: if he showed up at 10am and waited 4 hours I'd feel bad for him, but if he showed up at 4pm expecting bottles well, as they say "early bird gets the worm".

 

Ah, welcome! You now have the cigar city of the north!

Now all of you can see why there is so much annoyance with ccb from Tampa locals!

 

I'd say this probably puts RVA on the same "map" as Tampa and Vermont and outside Boston and outside Austin ... . So, an earnest congrats to the beer-drinkers there!

I mostly agree with you, @Lare453, but I tweaked your quote to reflect my feelings on the matter. I'll happily deal with the occasional irritation to have them around the other 99 percent of the time!

 

Nail hits the head. The culture of people having to get every release and the lengths that they go to get it is getting absurd.

 

Pretty sure poster who lives in New York wasn't commenting because he didn't get it. Probably more of a comment of how absurd craft beer is getting with people waiting in lines for hours and hours for BEER!

 

That's not true. Noda always announced it was always a 1 case limit. They did not change their limits even though hundreds did not get bottles. http://www.beeradvocate.com/communi...release-monstro-on-nov-1-charlotte-nc.218196/

 

Seems like the folks who got shut out were super pissed, and the folks who got some were thrilled (I got a later than expected start, and by the time I was getting in the car fb made it look like the zombie apocalypse was happening, so I decided not to make the drive). I think there's probably a middle ground though now that everyone has calmed down.

That being said, I get it. Seems like the release got a lot more people than expected and the KCM sold quicker than expected, and I think they'll make some tweaks going forward from the tone of their fb post. Not the end of the world, but still annoying for folks who waited in line for hours. That being said, both the "I'll never drink HW again" and the "Haha suckers I'm going to drink my KCM naked on periscope while you watch and cry" posts were a little over the top.

 

I don't blame HW for upping the limit from 2 to 6 but they should have definitely announced (well in advance) the number of bottles that were going to be available. At least it gives people a pretty good idea if they are going to get bottles and if it's worth waiting in line. Starting sales at 2pm is also ridiculous.

If it were my brewery I'd announce (well before the event) at XX time we are going to cut off the line, hand out tickets and the limit will be set based on the number of people with tickets (ie. 2,000 bottles available, 500 people w/ tix = bottle limit of 4 per person). People without tickets can remain in line and any 'leftovers' can be purchased at at the same bottle limit.

 

You are correct. My memory deceives me. I do remember it not being a very well handled release however. Reading back through, seems the issue was that the case limit was too high for the low bottle count. My apologies.

 

You don't need to apologize. It wasn't handled great and it is essentially the same issue. High limit and way more demand than supply. Plus who needs a freaking case of BA bombers of a beer you never had before? And then you had assholes selling bottles for a markup to people in line. It was a mess, they just didn't change their allotment.

 

That's what I assumed as well. Even still, we're all here because we love beer. No need to talk down to people if they don't mind spending more of their time or money on it (as he did to the OP).

 

The "relax, its just beer" obligatory comment in a negatively slanted thread is becoming almost as trite as "last years was better."

I'm sure Hardywood will take steps in the future to avoid this, they posted their pseudo apology and they do seem to be bothered by all the backlash. It sucked to get shut out of kygbs but it happens.
Some of the fb comments are just completely silly/childish but maybe some those people were probably several "cups" in, and were posting in the cold, disappointing line. At least I hope so.