Large scale brewing: What factors don't you worry about?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by inchrisin, Jan 24, 2017.

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  1. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I've been brewing a lot of homebrew after having a stent of not having anything to drink at all. I know, I know, be patient. I'm still reestablishing a pipeline in my new house. I'm drinking green beer and it got me thinking.

    Commercial beer always tastes really good and I don't taste many flaws in it. I'm just curious to hear, especially from some of the microbrewers, what are some of the most forgiving factors in brewing on a larger scale? Are there certain factors that you can ignore, or put in the background when you need to push out a beer is 6 to 8 weeks?
     
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  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    You've been very lucky :slight_smile:

    You mean 6 or 8 days, right?
     
  3. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    Not a professional brewer but from my perspective it's interesting to look at the differences between them and homebrewers. And I'd echo GreenKrusty, there is a lot of dodgy commercial beer out there :slight_smile:

    They have full time brewers, so can rack/filter/bottle etc whenever they need to/when is best for the beer. Unlike myself who has to do it at weekends. They can test DO, bacteria etc. Their scale means if they accidentally put in a few kgs less/more malt it doesn't matter and they will have more consistency in flavour because of those scales

    also, they aren't drinking most of their own beer, so can cask condition/don't really need to worry about the consuming of it beyond selling it to other parties - I have to drink all my beer, it'll go dull/stale if not off.

    Also because they brew so often they can keep a house yeast continuously going by top cropping, or at least crop for a fairly reasonable number of generations; it's often easier and probably better in most cases for homebrewers to start from scratch in that regard
     
  4. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    my 2 cents: blending batches is a big plus.

    Most commercial fermenters are sized 2-4x larger than the brewhouse size. So most breweries are brewing 2-4 batches and blending them in the same primary fermenter. Blending allows for a much more consistent product in the long run. It sometimes allows for some temporary ingredient substitutions (if needed), is great for the adjustment of gravity, ibu's, srm, etc.
     
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  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And the commercial breweries will blend beers from multiple fermentors as well. This is one of the techniques that AB employees to achieve consistency of their beers.

    Cheers!
     
  6. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Must be you guys are talking about large Brewers cause the ones I know rarely mix batches.

    And I agree there are many dodgy commercial brews for sale
     
  7. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    I brew on a 15 barrel Brewhouse and blend everything into 30 or 45 barrel fermenters
     
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  8. TomTown

    TomTown Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2011 Texas

    I wouldn't really call double or triple batching, "blending" though. If you're stopping your sparge based on gravity rather than volume, and brewing them all in pretty quick succession, they're all part of the same fermentation.

    I think one of the biggest differences is having a facility completely set up to effectively produce wort. (Pumps, Chemicals, etc.) Sanitation is also a huge deal; i.e.: having a cylindroconical fermentor on which you can perform a proper CIP, will always be cleaner than a glass carboy that you scrubbed as hard as you could.

    I think a big part of it is also mindset. A lot of homebrewers just like to brew to have beer in their house. (A great reason.) But if the brewer (you) is lazy, and doesn't put in the work to properly produce consistent wort, you're probably not gonna fire him...
     
  9. TomTown

    TomTown Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2011 Texas

    Definitely agree with this too. Didn't intend to disagree in my post. Just semantics over the word "blending."

    Cheers!
     
  10. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    Yeah it's basically just "wort blending" vs "beer blending" and I agree that most people mean the latter when using the term "blending" although I think it's an accurate term for either.
     
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