Ashleigh Carter, Co-founder and Head Brewer, Bierstadt Lagerhaus

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  1. Jugs_McGhee

    Jugs_McGhee Grand Pooh-Bah (5,956) Aug 15, 2010 Colorado
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    I really dug their hefeweizen collab with Comrade...would like it see it come back.
     
  2. jeebeel

    jeebeel Zealot (655) Jun 17, 2003 Texas

    I remember this too from growing up in Germany, both the 7 minute pours and the correct timing for ordering your second pils. That's how my Opa did it at his local kneipe. Thanks for the memory @hopfenunmaltz!
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,181) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am curious, what would you like Bill & Ron to do differently as regards lagers?

    Victory produces two year round lagers of Prima Pils and Helles Lager.

    Other lagers they produce periodically are: Braumeister Pils, Festbier, Zeltbier, St. Victorious, St. Boisterous, Sunset Dunkel,…

    Cheers!
     
  4. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,030) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    @jeebeel @hopfenunmaltz @EnronCFO @Todd
    Haven't we heard from many of our German members that the 7 minute Pils pour is more gimmick than anything? Just sayin' -- I don't mind at all, and I had it plenty of times in Germany, but some of the locals have decried it as showboating.
     
  5. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,081) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I can see how it could be called showboating if the bartender has flair. At home I just call it pouring.
     
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  6. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,030) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    So you create the big, mountainous head and nail the .25 l mark every time? :wink:
     
  7. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,611) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    On recent trips some Pilsners were poured in around 3 minutes or so. Still was legal, and it had the rocky head. So I agree that it can take less than 7 minutes.
     
  8. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,081) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I pour beer straight down into the center of the glass, let the foam settle and repeat until the glass is full or I run out of patience.
     
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  9. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,030) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    This is what I figured. :grinning:
    C'mon -- now it's a law? :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  10. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,081) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Only to followers of the true faith.
     
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  11. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,030) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Impatience. It's why I switched to Helles while in Munich. :slight_smile:
     
  12. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    If more brewers thought like them, we'd have more great beer being made.

    Fun and interesting article, as well.
     
  13. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,053) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    The 5- (or sometimes 7-) minute pour also produces a softer carbonation in the beer that ends up in your glass. I do think there is some old-fashioned showboating/marketing involved in making a point of such set times...with arguments about which length of time being better bandied about in various taverns. Love the article. Will make it out someday to finally try their beers.
     
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  14. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,611) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Legal pour, to the Plimsol line. It still has the nice rocky head. You get a good appearance good aroma and the legal pour amount of beer.
     
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  15. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,611) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I liked their lagers at Prost, and want to try Bierstadt. I think you will like those too.
     
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  16. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,030) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I was joking -- that you were saying 7 minutes was the law (not that I think the Bier Polizei jump in when the beer doesn't hit the line -- you've been to the Oktoberfest, right? :wink:)

    Nonetheless, no one has really addressed whether or not the & or 10 minute pour is a legit thing. You mention the aroma and appearance, but Pilsner is pretty effervescent anyway so a lot of aroma comes out of those bubbles no matter what -- and yeah, it looks good too.

    At one bar/restaurant (not a Bierhall or Garten) in Munich I ordered a Pils and got the 7 minute pour. After we ordered food and talked with the bar tender a while and ordered another Pils, the pour was quicker (with the same head and fill amount, BTW) -- no more showboating needed for the 2 Ami customers? Dunno. Just sayin'.
     
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  17. LuskusDelph

    LuskusDelph Initiate (0) May 1, 2008 New Jersey

    The late, lamented Zip City Brewery in NY poured their beers in that fashion. A good lager is definitely worth the wait!
     
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  18. MUCbox

    MUCbox Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2017

    Great article and I'm happy to hear everything she said about perfecting her beers and sticking with tradition. Head is super important on German beers, as is using the correct glassware. Growing up in a German household and having German parents, I always looked for an American brewery that could brew good authentic German beers. I was in heaven when I first tried Bill and Ashleigh's pils and alt at Prost, and was super happy that the pils at Bierstadt was even better. By far my favorite brewery in the US not only for the quality, but also the tradition. Thanks for bringing one of the best parts of Germany to Denver!
     
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  19. rodbeermunch

    rodbeermunch Grand Pooh-Bah (3,856) Sep 30, 2015 Nevada
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    What kind of pretentiousness is this hobby/job BS? Why do I have hobbies that aren't my job?

    Well because I can make a lot more money doing the more important things in life that aren't a hobby?

    A good way to ruin a fun hobby is to try and make money off of it.

    Other than that, I enjoy the marketing approach of the brewery. Would be cool to see Denver become like Milwaukee and have biergartens/lagers become part of the culture throughout town.
     
  20. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I rolled my eyes at that bit as well.

    I like my job A LOT and I like my hobbies A LOT. No reason to make one into the other.
     
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