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Bad trader alert: Dewarner82

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by cfh64, Oct 9, 2012.

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  1. wsnich

    wsnich Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2010 Texas

    This guy is an idiot with how visible he is on the internet. I found his employer and his boss within 5 minutes.

    Just post his personal information on 4chan and watch his world burn?
     
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  2. cfh64

    cfh64 Pooh-Bah (1,996) Aug 16, 2005 Texas
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    This infuriates me even more, so not only did he fuck me over on purpose but you as well. I think my decision on how to handle this has been made.
     
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  3. Archemedies

    Archemedies Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    I mentioned 4chan earlier, but it really is a good idea. His life would be miserable.
     
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  4. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2010 California

    I don't believe in karma so I say take retribution in hide.
     
  5. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Very false.

    In Florida, wanting to recover property and/or performance of a contract is not harassment. The statute requires either obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, vulgar, or indecent; and by such call or such language intends to offend, annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person at the called number.

    Telling someone you want them to perform their end of the deal, or return your property, does not fall under criminal conduct.

    I'm not aware of a single instance, in any jurisdiction that I've practiced in, someone being charged with a crime, for wanting someone to return stolen merch. I have seen plenty of people charged with crimes for theft though.

    Please people, stop trying to dissuade a good beeradvocate from going after an asshole with these fake finger wagging tales about it being illegal.
     
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  6. Lare453

    Lare453 Pooh-Bah (2,822) Feb 1, 2012 Florida
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Fuck off. I was advising him that there was a statute against it. Not dissuading anyone. And while you may not be prosecuted, if some constantly calls some one and they tell them to stop calling, you can call the police to file a theft report. Otherwise, if call someone too frequently it can be harassing phone calls. Charges get forwarded to the state and whatever they do with it is their business.

    Though it probably won't be theft since they entered into a civil agreement, I'd like those case law or some precedent on it.

    While it is a seldom used statute, and very rarely prosecuted, still exists.
     
  7. Jparkanzky

    Jparkanzky Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2011 Ohio

    I love when an "FYI don't trade with this guy" thread, turns into an "FYI don't trade with these guys" thread.
     
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  8. Lare453

    Lare453 Pooh-Bah (2,822) Feb 1, 2012 Florida
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Agreed.
     
  9. cfh64

    cfh64 Pooh-Bah (1,996) Aug 16, 2005 Texas
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    UPDATE: Dewarner just contacted me and said my boxes are on the way. He also provided tracking numbers. He said he apologized and said a lot of shit has been going down in his personal life. I told him I understood and I wish things hadn't gone as far as they did and that if he had just let me know what was going on I would have waited for weeks.

    I know everyone will jump on this excuse and he admitted it was inexcusable. I truly hope whatever it is in his life gets better. I'll probably leave this open for awhile do people will know the outcome but may ask the MODS to delete it. If he ever does log back on, and truly does have slit of personal issues, I don't think reading all of our comments would be beneficial. He knows he f'ed up and fixed it. Jimbo, I hope he has contacted you as well.

    Again, I appreciate everyone's kind words, offers, etc more then I can express here. Anyone, if there is anyone ( looking right at you DAT) who may have sent me done sort of condolence box (even though I asked you not too...jerks) you can be sure you will receive a comparable box in return.

    Sorry for the mistypings, damn iPhone.
     
  10. eyeenjoybeer

    eyeenjoybeer Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2011 Seychelles

    That sort of talk smarts of a system much like the current penal system in the US, which is a total failure by the way. Maybe I am reading you wrong.

    There is and always will be a risk in trading with anyone. There are no sanctions available against someone who doesn't come through on a trade other than ostracism. It is still a Dick Move, but we have to Move On.
     
  11. cfh64

    cfh64 Pooh-Bah (1,996) Aug 16, 2005 Texas
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I warned him that I started a bad trader thread and a lot of people, including myself, said some not so nice things. I also explained I had no other reason to believe he hadn't f'ed me on purpose. He understood.
     
  12. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Why don't you cry about it over some Miller 64 Lemonade tough guy?
     
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  13. BOBPINCH666

    BOBPINCH666 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2011 New York

    Yikes, this thread got real dark…
     
  14. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Name one single example in the history of the world that has ever been better . . .
     
  15. Lare453

    Lare453 Pooh-Bah (2,822) Feb 1, 2012 Florida
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    oh no! I'm so hurt...
     
  16. Lare453

    Lare453 Pooh-Bah (2,822) Feb 1, 2012 Florida
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    There isn't one.
     
  17. crushedvol

    crushedvol Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2008 Illinois

  18. jrnyc

    jrnyc Pooh-Bah (2,988) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    I hope you get your beer. Also, your empathy is commendable. But do not delete this thread. Even when people finally come through, it doesnt mean they are not a bad trader. Look at the shit storm needed here to get this guy to cough up your beer.
     
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  19. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    yeah, threads like these need to stay so people know to trade with caution. maybe it really is the case that "life happened" and hopefully the guy makes good with all the people he's fucked over... but if he PM'd me asking to trade some shit, i'd want to know about all this stuff before i said yes or no (and i would almost certainly say no).
     
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  20. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    WHEN DO WE START DEBATING WHETHER HE GOES ON THE BAD TRADER LIST?
     
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