Bad trader alert: Dewarner82

It's unfortunate that bad traders seem to the be trend as of late and some may attribute it to the economy, etc. but in my opinion, it takes a very shitty person to burn another over beer. I understand that shit happens in life, but all it takes is a single call, email or text to explain the situation instead of stringing a person out. Whether or not the original trader had the intention of ripping people off is another issue, but if something does happen then communication is paramount.

With that said, a person's only as good as his/her word and there's a ton of good BAers on here. I have my fingers crossed that you receive what you were originally promised, along with yojimbo1 receiving his trade also.

 

Whenever I read this type of response from people I imagine it being said by one of my kids. Well, no, my kids are late teens, I guess I mean one of my kids about ten years ago.

Does this reply really fit your self image?

Are you sneaking Daddy's beer? Hope he doesn't catch you.

 

Not trying to get in a flame war with an Internet tough guy. I'm sorry your kids are Whitney and you had to deal with that. I sure you are an emotionally scared old fella close to death.

What would you like me to respond with?

D you really take things to heart said on th winter net and get hurt over them?

 

Looks like this thread needs "The Fixer".....guys, have some Miller Lite.

 

My kids are Whitney? I guess I am too old to understand these new pejoratives.

You told an actual established lawyer to fuck off after he quoted Florida law, then responded like a hurt cub scout. Not sure you can top those responses. Feel free to try.

 

Read the law. If you call someone repeatedly for any purpose after being told to stop, it fits the statute. I don't know that he is an established lawyer do I? Never met him.

Also under subsection c, makes or causes to ringtone telephone of another repeatedly or continuously ring with the intent to harass any person called at this number

Subsection d makes repeated telephone calls during which conversation ensues solely to harass any person at that number.

 

A lot of people pretend to be a lot of things on the Internet.

 

SO I can't kick him in the nuts now?

 

So maybe you really are old enough to drink?

It was all about intent, what beerandraiderfan quoted, and you completely ignore that. Why don't you wise up and realize intent is the key to the statute. If the intent is to recover legally owed merchandise or money, and this intent is made clear, there is no law broken, civilly or criminally.

You haven't been on here long enough to have heard this advice. Don't drink and post. Glad I could be the first to offer it, and hope you follow it.

 

Not sure if it's applicable but there are all sorts of laws that regulate how debts are to be collected (including how many and type of phone calls, etc). I'm not sure if that just applies to collection companies or what not, but there are instances where "harassing" phone calls intending to recover owed money is illegal. I'm not trying to get in the middle of this, nor am I an expert, but thought I'd throw that little tidbit in anyway.

Carry on now, nothing to see here...

 

There are countries you can move to where they'll chop off your hand for stealing. I don't think they get much craft beer or alcohol at all for that matter. I personally am glad in our country we don't allow cruel and unusual punishment.

Not trying to be a dick here as I typically think you're a good poster. I just think you're either way off the mark on this or heavily exaggerated your point.

 

How about you read the scenario in the thread?

Just one of the/your problems with playing fantasy armchair attorney is you have to wed law with the factual scenario within the thread. At no point has the bad trader told the OP to stop calling. It should be obvious, his intent is not to harass, but to get his beer, thus making every section of the statute inapplicable. But the most obvious problem you fail to see (other than your own childishness and name calling) is that Florida does not have jurisdiction to punish someone making a phone call in Texas.

Furthermore, equitable legal doctrines of unclean hands and unconscionability would probably prevent such a prosecution from occurring even if factual scenario mirrored the statutory language. Not to mention, the statute could have some constitutional challenges to it, be it either free speech or contracts clause. . .

Its ironic that someone would talk about internet tough guys, while telling someone to fuck off whom they don't know, via the internet.

 

Yes. Harassment is illegal. Attempting to collect a debt or have someone perform a contractual obligation is not. Its all good man, I don't mind disagreement or healthy substantive debate, in fact I invite it.

 

OJ's intent was to get his sports memorabilia which he felt he was owed back.

 

Tell me you meant to put a in there. . . please.

Side note: OJ's current home is w/in walking distance of mine.

 

I despise emoticons.

 

Giggity goo

 

He hasn't contacted me. He doesn't have my phone number. We've only spoken through BM. cfh64, did you talk to him on the phone? Did he contact you or you him?