Looking for a some hop aroma please.

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by slayerhellfire, Mar 13, 2012.

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  1. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York


    I'm just curious about your opinion on the subject. If Stone, Green Flash, etc are not a "West Coast IPAs" then what are they in your opinion? Are they East Coast IPAs? Are they English IPAs? What are they?
     
  2. aficionado

    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    I already told you examples of what "I" found to be true West Coast, as well as explain the general guidelines that I would take to create such a beer. Why do you enjoy beating this issue to death? I didn't say that my concept of West Coast, or my way of brewing West Coast IPAs was absolute law. But you're essentially saying that my opinions are wrong. Drop the imposing tough guy act, Joe. To answer your question more literally, I believe they're West Coast IPAs that aren't brewed to the absolute best of their ability. They could be drier, hoppier, cleaner, more bitter, more aromatic, more addictive.
     
  3. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I have the opinion that the homebrewing forums are actually my facebook wall.
     
  4. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    I’m not trying to be a “tough guy”, Rob, why are you so defensive all the time? You’ve mentioned a number of times that you brew IPAs exclusively, you like drinking IPAs, and you comment in all the IPA threads, so I was just curious what your opinion was regarding these commercial IPAs.

    I've said on the forums many times that I like brewing and drinking bitters, and I sometimes get beer mails from people asking my opinion on the subject. I don't generally take these inquiries as an attack and act in a defensive manner, I just take them as par for the course given how often I post (or used to post) on the subject.
     
  5. aficionado

    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    Despite your defense of claiming not to be pushy for the public, you kind of are. Calling someone out on it is to be expected if you're always acting like a passive aggressive bigot. There are a few of you here. You comment on all of my threads in a very passive, yet patronizing manner. This is nothing new.
     
  6. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    This is a discussion forum, you have strong opinions, people question your opinions, this is how a discussion forum works, but you take it as if you're being attacked. Apparently the problem isn't you though, it's everyone else. Why is it that nobody but you has this same problem?
     
  7. aficionado

    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    Define my strong opinions vs. your strong opinions and explain how they differ. Maybe you have always had it out for me whenever I communicate my thoughts OR maybe I communicate my opinions in a cocky way...maybe both. I don't think I do this, but I'd love to see some illustration.

    Edit:

    Do you realize how ridiculous it is to badger someone for their opinions? Even passive aggresively...as if you're waiting for me to miss something or skip a beat so you can berate me on the forums. It gets real old and I really don't care, but I thought I'd call you out on it. Either way, this is a forum and people should be allowed to talk, suggest, offer opinions without overly serious folk like you coming along and questioning every damn expressed thought as if we defied the constitution.
     
  8. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    No no, you're absolutely right, it's not you, it's all of us, we've all been out to get you since day one.

    Anyway, all I wanted to know is how you would classify Stone IPA etc. You're not the only one who thinks that "West Coast" IPAs should be bone dry and use little/no crystal etc, and I'm just trying to understand how this opinion fits in with the popular commercial examples out there. Apparently I asked the wrong person as I'm now a tough guy passive aggressive bigot. That's fine, lesson learned.
     
  9. aficionado

    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    You didn't answer the question.

    And for the hundreth time, I answered your question.
     
  10. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    Dude, as a frequent reader and sometime contributor to these types of threads who has no vested interest in taking sides, you really might want to rethink your online "voice" or attitude. Eventually a rational person has to realize, maybe it's not them that is the problem. I think you may actually have some pretty decent info or added insight to contribute here but it's tough to glean from your posts because of the way you come off.
     
  11. aficionado

    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    I understand what you are saying, but there is a history here which you do not understand. Additionally, there are pros of passive-aggressionism... and there are those who call them out on it.
     
  12. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    No I understand. I'm not new here. Perhaps there has been some private BMs that influence your position, but from what all of us can read, it's pretty clear.
     
  13. aficionado

    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    Your bias towards my usual tone is obvious, and while I may be an abrasive and direct person... at least I'm not someone who would backstab, talk shit behind your back, or passively attack for attention. This always occurs in the same order: me giving opinionated advice (just as everyone else does) but then I am passively badgered by a few select BA veterans for exclaiming said opinion. Tired of it.
     
  14. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

  15. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Who is a back stabber?
     
  16. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    MY GOODNESS! TAKE THIS OFF TOPIC CHATTER TO A CONVERSATION AND DO NOT DERAIL THE THREAD.
    I never bothered much with aroma, but recently started trying to get more out of it. I have been disappointed so far 10min and DH additions. I think I need an in line hop thing going through a plate chiller or something.
     
  17. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts
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    If that was serious, make sure to put the in line hop thing after the plate chiller. Hops will ruin your shit if you are trying to pump through a plate chiller.
     
  18. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    If we're talking about something like a hopback, that goes before your chiller, not after. The hops stay in the hopback and don't go into the chiller, so they do not ruin your shit. The theory being that the hot wort strips the oils off the hops and then the wort goes immediately into the chiller, thus trapping the oils in the wort and not allowing then to volatilize.
     
  19. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I get the whole hopback deal, that was mostly a word of caution that wasn't so serious since I figured the post I was replying to wasn't too serious to begin with.
     
  20. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    It is serious, if not a capitol expenditure a bit far away.
    I use whole leaf, so I was thinking something like HB42 suggested. Hot wort hit hops then cool and trap those oils. I was thinking a screen or something would keep the whole hops out and since it is hot the cold break would not clog it.
     
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