bottle issue? - sierra nevada pale ale

Glass has no magic properties for conditioning. And you used punctuation!!!

 

LOL you just lost all credibility with me, they want to look at the issue you raised in two separate threads and your reply is na, not doing that.

 

Again, see my previous post. Those ARE NOT CRACKS.

 

@mudbug hit the nail on the head. I have noticed this from several breweries. Picked up a 12 pack of the Farmhouse Rye from Shiner and several bottles had what looked like a crack running along the neck, but was actually just a flaw in the mold or something. The tell would be lack of carbonation or an exploding bottle when you opened it, because this isn't the thickest glass in the world on disposable bottles. If this bugs you, stick to cans. The only way I would begin to be pissed off about this is if the beer was flat. And yes if you are going to contact the brewery about this, at least follow thru with sending them the bottle when they mail you a carrier. And prof's to sierra nevada for jumping on this and participating in the thread @SierraTerence

 

@reowin — well done — u must be laughing your ass off !!

 

The only way you'll get a satisfactory answer is to engage with Sierra Nevada, including sending them one or more bottles in the shipping container they offered to send you.

 

I remain unconvinced that she is a troll.

 

Manufacturer offered to investigate but you refuse to send them back the product. Then they offered to make it right with a full refund but you refused that. So what EXACTLY are you trying to accomplish again?

And yes you kind of do sound crazy when you say you are trying to figure out why, how and what is it but you won't work with the manufacturer who produced it.

 

I'm flattered, obviously OP thinks we can solve the problem better than the manufacturer, and who knows maybe OP's right, and BA'ers do have magic powers to fix things like this . I'm keeping an open mind.

 

Sierra Nevada is not the "manufacturer" of their bottles, Owens-Illinois is. (You can find their well-known "O-I" logo embossed around the base of SN's and countless other brewers' bottles). Owens-Illinois claims to be "world’s leading glass container manufacturer" and has a large share of the US beer bottle market.

SN's bottles - known as "Heritage" design in O-I's NA Beer Bottle catalog - are not unique to SN (i.e., they don't have "proprietary" molds which create bottles w/embossed logos the way many current brewers do). In addition, obviously SN uses the same bottles for their beers - there are not separate "Pale Ale" bottles, "Porter" bottles and "Torpedo" bottles - and bottles of their beers are filled and crowned on the same bottling lines.

 

That's cool to browse the O-I catalog. I'd guess that much of the beer I drink comes from their bottles.

 

The way to get answers/results is to contact Sierra Nevada (who manufactured the beer product that OP purchased at retail) which OP did, but then actually work with them to investigate the issue. OP can try contacting Owens-Illinois, but I really don't think that will get anything done. Just like if you purchase a soda and get a defective can, you're better off contacting the soda company than the can manufacturer if you actually want an answer/explanation/refund.

 

I'm not suggesting the OP contact O-I - he's already rejected SN's offer sending the bottle(s) back to them at their expense - just noting that SN is not the "manufacturer" of the bottle (which others seemed to imply) and that their bottle maker supplies bottles for hundreds - likely thousands, worldwide - of other brewers, and those O-I bottles sold to SN are used for all their beers, not just Pale Ale.

 

Since you are discussing this topic again you give me the impression that you are a motivated beer consumer.

Permit to suggest that you send these bottles to Sierra Nevada and let them work this issue. This will be beneficial to your personally and can be helpful to other beer consumers who may share your same concerns.

Cheers!

@SierraTerence

 

When I look at those marks in the photos in post #74 all I see are surface abrasions (and fingerprint smudges and flash bounce-back.) I'll bet that if you took a bottle and used the bottom ridge that is slightly sharp and ran it across the neck of a bottle you'd get a similar marking (even with minimal pressure applied). I think these bottles just got handled roughly somewhere along the way and scratches occurred.

OP, send a bottle back to SN for them to investigate. Let's close this thread.

 

It's not just the OP. I have some SN Pale Ale bottles with the same issue. Crack, blemish,imperfection whatever it is I wasn't going to bother posting, but I didn't want to see someone mocked and called a troll for no reason, regardless of the cause of the blemishes. Having said that, if you're concerned, don't drink them and follow the breweries suggestion/recommendation.

 

Would you be willing to send those bottles to Sierra Nevada for further evaluation?

Cheers!

@SierraTerence

 

I can’t remember if the topic of bad Sierra Nevada bottles in 2017 was discussed in this thread. Terence brought this topic up in another thread while discussing the topic of Sierra Nevada beer sales over the past couple of years:

“We did have two down years in a row... But not by double digits in either year. I'm not going to share exact numbers.

2016 - we were cycling against one of our biggest growth years ever (volume wise).
2017 - glass recall didn't help.”

https://www.beeradvocate.com/commun...be-sold-at-auction.555673/page-6#post-5836390

I suspect that the issues being discussed in this thread is more of an issue of appearance vs. a safety issue but I am not a bottle expert so I really don’t know.

Given that Sierra Nevada had to implement of recall last year due to bad bottles (and lost sales/money as a result) I am confident that they are ‘sensitive’ to the topic of bottles which may not be 100% pristine.

I would think that BAs who have these bottles with ‘imperfections’ would do both Sierra Nevada and we beer consumers a favor by shipping them to Sierra Nevada for further assessment. Hopefully these bottles simply have appearance issues but it would be good to know this for a fact. Also, maybe Sierra Nevada would want to have further information so they can take steps to mitigate this appearance problem from happening in the future. It would be better for Sierra Nevada if bottle ‘issues’ were not even a topic of conversation.

Cheers!

P.S. I would be happy if Sierra Nevada decided to solely package their beers in cans but that is just my personal preference.

 

Yes, but I didn't and wouldn't have noticed them until reading this topic. Which lends creedence to the OP.


I had a few of the recalled bottles last year, Notified SN and they were great about it

 

Does that mean that you no longer have the bottles with 'imperfections' in your possession?

Cheers!