So, how's Beer Trading going?

I've got about 15 trades under my belt, all done while comments were allowed. Guess how many of my trades got threadshit...none. If you had a trade get threadshit, it's because it deserved to be threadshit.

Comments are a necessary evil, just prevent them from bumping if possible.

 

How about as a sub-forum, within each region. I care a lot more about what something is going for locally than what someone across the country is paying for it.

 

I like the price idea. Perhaps a "price range" could be added to the page for each beer.

 

How about allow 3 posts total per week to the trade forums (ISO:FT that is)? That is, including replies and new thread postings. That way there would be some thought maybe given to the replies, instead of a constant banter back and forth...

 

My friend, I am glad you were not being serious.

I am glad that some folks were helped in the replies. That's cool, and a great part of BA is the community that can be built. However, it appeared to me, and granted I may be wrong, that for any one trader that was ever helped, three people were just threadshit upon. Random jack-ass comments (the most), BA's starting mini-conversations with in the thread with other BA's that had posted comments (sometimes), and getting trades pulled (least) because of all these shenanigans. All the while, the OP is just trying to trade some beer. If somebody wants it, it happens. If nobody is interested, it does not happen. Let freedom ring. I'm afraid this will have to be the end, as I've wasted my allotted time for the day. Agree to disagree, I guess.

Grammar **** P.S. - *rustled jimmies

 

Most responses start off helpful, even if the response is flippant. The real problems happen because the threads are bumped. Activity begets activity. An active thread at the top of the forum with a lot of responses is increasingly likely to get more and more responses, discussions, side conversations, jackass comments, etc. But who actually looks at a trade thread on page 2? If threads aren't bumped, responses will happen, and most of them will be useful. Trades will happen if they were going to happen, and then fall off the page. Off topic thread takeovers won't dominate page 1.

 

As for the moderation nightmare, don't moderate it or very lightly moderate it.

It is trade AT YOUR OWN RISK where people can actually get ripped off, why not post AT YOUR OWN RISK where only feelings may get hurt?

I understand not including names etc. on the forum that would need to be removed ( however I really think if you screw someone over, you are fair game ) but I can see the ramifications.

I got my balls busted a few times when I started to trade. I learned the internet is a wild place and got over it.
( at the time Dreadnaught did not trade for KBS )

We are all at least 21 here aren't we?

 

Rabble rabble rabble.

Now that I have got that out my system- good job on the site. Threads shitting in the trade forums had begun to bleed over into other forums and made the site overall a negative place. As far as the complaint of trade value- there is no trade value aside from what is paid for the beer. Went out of your way for it and drove two days and lost a friend in the process? Good for you champ, if what is offered doesn't measure up then don't trade it. Worse comes to worst you will have to -gasp- drink that beer you worked on so hard for.

In short, this site works just as it needs to.

 

^THIS x10^

Allow replies / list posts by date.

 

I think that a beer trading 101 sticky would be awesome. I remember not too long ago taking time to search on BA and google to get some info on trading and the associated dos, don'ts, and other associated things to know before you jump in. However there are plenty of people who don't take time to figure things out before they jump in. I'm sure a sticky would help with that. And it goes without saying that a bad traders list sticky would surely help things out.

 

yes. i know both the people involved. but i snickered about it due to the person on the other end getting taken advantage of was a mildly entertaining thing. not going to post the details here.

 

I like the first 2 options, and I'm mixed on the 3rd. I personally like being able to Reply in the Trade fForum. It gives a chance for a positive reference to be made about the OP. I know this may seem small, but I like being able to randomly toss my 2 positive cents in on behalf of a solid BA. But sadly, as mordormongo said, it can get ugly quick.

 

Not to distract from the otherwise pristine and infallible logical structure of your brilliant argument (cough cough), but...grammar isn't spelling?

And to give a substantive reply: so you'd rather get rid of helpful posts than "suffer" through threadshits (which you've already admitted don't bother you)?

 

I think you're right. Seems like my typo...

RUSSLED some jimmies.

YEEAAAAAA!!!!!!

 

I really like the idea of a sub-forum within Beer Trading for price checks. Then the BCBS or whatever price-check thread could be full of everybody's different costs (they could mention where they made the purchase), and people researching trades could search that much easier. Seems like it would cut down on comments in ISOs if said comments were to be reinstated.

 

Trading is going ok. Not much has changed since any of the new site implementations. But here's my two cents anyways:

1) Yes, please sticky the bad trader list.

2) Yes, Beer Trading 101 would be awesome too.

3) Yes to replies as long as they don't bump. If your ISO/FT really was fair then there should be no worry about threadshitting. Out of the 100s of ISO/FTs I've put up I have never had any threadshitting, nor have I ever had someone BM me their thoughts.

4*) (I know it wasn't initially addressed, but...) Yes to minimum site reaquirements before someone can post in any trading forum (maybe with the exception of the IT forward forum, only because I don't know how much of an issue these things are over there). Minimum time as a BA and minimum number of posts would help weed out the one-day-old new accounts started up and diving right into trading.

My real issue with trading lately (albeit a very minor issue in the grand scheme of things) is the Beer Trading/General Help forum. It is just a new ISO/FT forum where replies help your post stay at the top for days on end until it finally gets done. If you want to know the value of your beer, post an ISO/FT looking for specific beers (or styles) in return. You'll probably find out pretty quickly what it's worth. If you really aren't certain what you want to trade it for then spend some time researching rather than posting your "Trade Value" question (which we all know is just the new auction format).

I agree with photekut in the sense that if Beer Trading is done "at your own risk," then posting in that forum should also be done that way. Leave the moderation for real issues, such as posting personal information, names, etc., or if someone is truly out of control and resorting to personal attacks, etc.

Thanks guys, you're doing a great job as it stands now and thanks for listening to our feedback!

 

My opinion is that the majority of those that want replies want them for the entertainment value alone. I don't trade often and don't care either way.

 

Touché, good sir. You out grammar-****ed me.