Weedkiller found in "popular" beer brands

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  1. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Just out of curiosity, which crops do you know of that have been tailored to tolerate roundup? Are there a bunch? PETPI?
     
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  2. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Soybeans, for one. Probably others. I'm not an expert on this; I only know what I've read about it.

    PETPI... "People for the Ethical Treatment of Poison Ivy" :grin:
     
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  3. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    "The first Roundup Ready crops were developed in 1996, with the introduction of genetically modified soybeans that are resistant to Roundup. These crops were developed to help farmers control weeds. Because the new crops are resistant to Roundup, the herbicide can be used in the fields to eliminate unwanted foliage. Current Roundup Ready crops include soy, corn, canola, alfalfa, cotton, and sorghum, with wheat under development." (web.mit.edu, 2009)

    I think there's a couple more besides the ones listed.
     
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  4. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    I prefer to follow the science, not the emotions.

    If we truly could eliminate ALL suspected human carcinogens from our lives, we would live a 16th century life, if we would survive at all.

    Just for grins, I looked up "Known and Suspected Human Carcinogens" and found some interesting things included:
    • Aluminum, glass containers, alcoholic beverages, ethanol in alcoholic beverages (eliminating those would make drinking beer a bit difficult...)
    • Asphalt, boot and shoe manufacture and repair, coffee, diesel fuel & diesel engine exhaust, gasoline & gasoline engine exhaust, estrogen & oral contraceptives, household combustion of wood, marijuana smoke, mineral oil, wood dust, high-temperature frying, soot, circadian disruption, peanuts, various vinyls, including what causes that "new car smell." (eliminating those would make our lives / society VERY different)
    I also discovered a number of foods that contain naturally-occurring human carcinogens, including broccoli, apples, onions, oranges, strawberries, lemons and mushrooms. In addition, nitrates are present in celery, lettuce, kale and rhubarb. (note: naturally occurring - nothing to do with pesticides or herbicides) Is it even possible to have a diet free from carcinogens? No. It isn't.

    Getting back to science, the real risk is all depending on the dose (and duration of exposure, etc.)

    Many of these "known and suspected human carcinogens" are only "known and suspected" based on animals tested with huge concentrations, and even then the results are not uniform (caused tumors in some animals, but not in other similar animals, for example).

    Further, advances in scientific measurement technology means minute concentrations are now detectable that were undetectable even 10 years ago. Teeny tiny concentrations do not have the same effect on human health as only tiny concentrations.
     
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  5. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I frikin' hate poison ivy! I'm well aware of pre-emergent herbicides, and I've been around all sorts of agricultural operations. It really is amazing how many different chemicals, from fertilizers, herbicides, and insecticides flow directly into our groundwater, streams, and rivers. We have a serious issue here in North Carolina with an un-studied chemical named genex. It is apparently used as a coating like teflon. It is showing up in many odd places. I'm not sure what I hate more, mosquitos or poison ivy.
     
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    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    And now there are the superweeds and pests that are adapting and becoming resistant to the very product that was developed to abate them.
    Oodles of results HERE
     
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  8. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Life finds a way.
     
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