Germany trip upcoming in June

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  1. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I've been to a few of them -- some to stay in the Gasthaus, some to just stop for a beer. Never been disappointed.
     
  2. Dodger75

    Dodger75 Aspirant (287) Feb 26, 2017 England

    View? There wasn’t one. I think you might be getting mixed up unless I missed the view however I was in on each of my 5 nights and didn’t see any views bar the server in dirndl.
     
  3. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Hmm. Maybe I'm thinking of another spot -- or maybe the HB has moved? I'll check my resources.

    Place I'm thinking about has a Biergarten with a mountain view.
     
  4. ClarkstonMark

    ClarkstonMark Zealot (515) Feb 21, 2016 Michigan
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    Good luck. It is pretty easy to file a EU261 claim, and I think that the EU261 should be above and beyond what you already received.
    Great write-up on your trip.
     
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  5. BayernTrips

    BayernTrips Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2017 Germany

    Tegernsee Brewery is located far south of Munich, but it is a cult favorite in Munich. One hint - order it in a "Willi Becher" instead of a mug. The Willi Becher glass is far superior! Their main tap in Munich is right across from the Schneider Bräuhaus. Since Schneider doesn't produce any bottom fermented beer, you will also get a Tegernseer Helles. Likewise in Tegernsee, if you ask for a Weißbier, you get a Schneider. http://whichbeerglass.com/2017/03/willi-becher/
     
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  6. jeebeel

    jeebeel Zealot (667) Jun 17, 2003 Texas

    I just got back from another trip to Germany and I would like to share some excellent Munich recommendations I kindly received from @BayernTrips.

    If you have nice weather, rent bikes at Mike's Bikes Tours/Rentals by Isartor and head south along the Isar with biergarten stops at Menterschwaige and then Flaucher as you come back into town. After you return bikes, an excellent new food option that we found is Zum Stiftl https://www.zum-stiftl.de/, which is a block away from Schneider on Tal Str. Really good food & HP beers, and it has its own metzgerei that makes a very tasty weisswurst breakfast. Zum Stiftl is about to celebrate its one-year anniversary and it is highly recommended.

    Just east across the Isar from the Deutsches Museum is a fantastic German restaurant: https://wirtshausinderau.de/. Dinner reservations are a good idea. South of there is Giesinger, and as others have noted, it is well worth a visit for good beers and a unique place and vibe for Munich.

    Also, we stayed in a nice AirBnB apartment close to Wirsthaus in der Au. It would be a good option for anyone traveling with a family who wants to skip a hotel. If anyone wants details, feel free to PM me.

    Thanks again for the pro tips @BayernTrips.
     
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  7. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    So I was curious… Do any of the breweries offer Marzen/Festbier around town before or after Oktoberfest, or is it strictly an Oktoberfest offering?

    Just wondering if you went in say early September or October (before/after the festivities), if you would be able to enjoy those beers?
     
  8. FrankenBier

    FrankenBier Zealot (645) Feb 4, 2003 California

    I was in Munich one year in late October and one of the Augustiner pubs had their Festbier on tap. it probably depends on how much leftovers there were :slight_smile:

    I would think finding earlier would be less likely as they make a big deal of tapping the first barrels, But that is totally a guess on my part...
     
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  9. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

    Are you talking solely about the Munich brewers?
     
  10. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Yeah, for the most part.

    @FrankenBier

    Great info, thanks! I figure you might catch it around town at various places (if they did have leftovers), was just curious though.
     
  11. jeebeel

    jeebeel Zealot (667) Jun 17, 2003 Texas

    Giesinger has a good märzen in the draft lineup at their brauhaus.
     
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  12. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    For Bamberg, what are some favorite Bierkellers and/or places with great views? I've been to Greifenklau, the Spezial Keller, and the Cafe am Michaelsberg. I know of a couple others like Faessla Keller that are listed on the tourism websites, but I know very little about them.
    Any recommendations or places that are best avoided?
     
  13. FrankenBier

    FrankenBier Zealot (645) Feb 4, 2003 California

    Wilde Rose Keller (basically next to Spezial Keller but you have to continue up Stephansberg) is well shaded but doesn't have a view. A house Kellerbier (of unknown origins) and Schlenkerla

    Domterrassen (Unterer Kaulberg 36) has a good view of the Dom. In a previous incarnation (Tapas Bar) they had Mönchsambacher on tap. I think they still have it in bottles and Keesmann Pils on tap.

    Fässla Keller doesn't have a view. They used to have the Zwergla (dunkel) on draft in addition to the Pils and Lager. If you like Fässla it's a nice place to sit outside and drink.

    Zum Weinfass (Habergasse 12) is along the old Ludwig canal and has a view of it. Also serves Fässla.

    Of course, Cafe Abseils has a nice garden out back.

    Einhorns Keller (Jakobsberg 8 -- if you go from the Dom to Torschuster, then keep walking you'll come it). It has been renovated recently I'm told but I haven't been there in over 10 years. I think they have Fässla now. I don't remember there being much of a view, but my memory is hazy.
     
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  14. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    This is super helpful! I had no idea how widespread Fässla's beers were.
     
  15. FrankenBier

    FrankenBier Zealot (645) Feb 4, 2003 California

    Other than Kaiserdom, they probably are the most distributed of the Bamberg breweries (at least locally). That is a problem because I think they often sell more than their brewery can really handle (leading to shorter lagering times). One of my standard bike rides is to Höfen, Freudeneck and Mürsbach. On the way we pass thru Rattlesdorf (about 15km from Bamberg) and there are a couple of Gasthäuser with Fässla signs on them. We always joke about stopping for a beer.

    Maisel had pretty good distribution and when they closed Fässla picked up a lot their accounts.

    BTW, I'll be in Bamberg from August 11 to 30 if anybody is around and wants to meet for a beer...
     
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  16. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    My wife and I will be there the weekend of the 16th. Might shoot you a message before we head out.
     
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  17. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Well... Today we just booked our return to Munich next May! This time, flying in/out of Munich... No plans for a car (unless for a day trip or whatever) and doing all the stuff we didn't get to our trip this summer. The Alps, Castles, Austria and whatever other cities we want to take day trips too. Of course, spending a lot more quality time at all the wonderful breweries

    Here is my question… I know we bought day tickets for the train to get around, but this time since we will be trekking farther distances, is there like a week-long train ticket or anything like that to purchase?

    I don’t see us going beyond say, Bamberg/Nuremberg and like Salzburg in Austria. What is the best option for 10 days of train travel (or like a week or whatever makes sense?).
     
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  18. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    there used to be a Bayernticket that would allow travel within that federal state for a discount
     
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  19. rodndtube

    rodndtube Zealot (643) Feb 24, 2007 Maryland
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    I've read that Munich and Germany will be announcing new schedules and tariffs in early-December, but I don't think a lot will change.

    You can purchase daily group passes for the Munich lines and daily group passes for Bavaria (or for any of the German states/provinces). DieBahn were usually show that as an option when you use their ticket/trip planner. This is the good all-around starting point.
    https://www.bahn.de/p_en/view/index.shtml

    The Bayern planner is also handy:
    http://www.bayern-fahrplan.de/en/journey-planner?set_language=en

    The Munich system (MVV):
    http://efa.mvv-muenchen.de/index.html#trip@enquiry

    Added bonus, the Nurembeg/Bamberg region is the VGN:
    https://www.vgn.de/en/

    The MVV Munich transit system will take you deep into the outer bands of Munich, and as I recall down into Ayinger and Kloster Andech, and certainly to Freising (Weihenstephaner) and Erding (Erdinger), in addition to the Munich international airport.

    The beauty of the Bayern Ticket is that it not only covers Munich local transit and the DB trains, it covers the local transit in the towns/cities throughout Bavaria, e.g., Nuremberg and Bamberg. The Bayern (Lander) ticket does not cover the Intercity Express and other high speed transit lines, e.g., the IC/ICE. Also, during the week, the ticket is good for travel only after 9am. The ticket is also good for travel to/from Salzburg.

    Kelheim is a decent destination but check the itineraries as the trip can sometimes be time consuming... but the rewards are great in Weltenburger (via short boat ride) and Schneiderweiss. Regensburg has those great little sausages plus a great brewery house,
    Brauereigaststätte Kneitinger, which in my mind has the best dunkel around, plus their other dark beers, and good good to boot.

    Dig a little bit into the websites to learn more about ticket varieties and areas covered. For example, in Bamberg we like riding the bus from the main train station to the Klosterbräu Bamberg, and walking our way back, maybe even the long walk to Mahr Brau (or ride the bus from around Spezial and then the night bus from Mahr to the main station).

     
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  20. FrankenBier

    FrankenBier Zealot (645) Feb 4, 2003 California

    If you were basing yourself in Bamberg (or Nürnberg or any other town in the VGN region) you can buy weekly and monthly passes (called a MobiCard) that let you travel in the whole region (with the exception, like the Bayern Ticket, not on IC/ICE) Some are solo and some are good for two people. Lots of friends have done that, staying in Bamberg and riding trains/buses out to various breweries.

    Don't know the Munich system as well to know if they have something similar.
     
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