Beer Styles Have Finally Been Updated!

Thank you!

 

The Russian Imperial Stout ... the word "Imperial" refers to the Imperial Court of Russia, and its origin is from the 18th century: an English Porter brewed for the Russian Court. (Or, at least, so I have read.... in fact, I have seen some purported quotes of historical documents referring to the beer as simply a "porter"). And, for emphasis, the Russian Imperial Stout is an English beer, not a Russian beer.

So, historically, what is the difference between a porter and a stout? Apparently, none.

Using the term "imperial" to mean "a high ABV version of the base style", while the modern meaning of the term, is a bastardization of brewing history.

I don't care, either way, but to complain about it in reference to RIS betrays a lack of historical perspective. And, speaking of which, wouldn't using "double", "triple", or "quadruple" be more in line with brewing history? (re: Belgium, Germany...)

I also agree with others who have pointed out that the "imperial" styles are convenient for being able to compare beers with their peers.

 

I didn't mention RIS, for that very reason

 

It's use is so prevalent in the industry though that the bastardization has become the norm.

Particularly for stouts; I definitely would prefer calling a stronger IPA a DIPA over an IIPA for a number of reasons - the confusion of having two I's just being one of those.

 

It's easier to drink NA. Always the same classification

 

I agree. I was more lamenting than expecting anything to change.

 

From the style page - seems like those should generally be in here:

American Blonde Ale
One of the most approachable styles, a golden or Blonde Ale is an easy-drinking beer that is visually appealing and has no particularly dominating malt or hop characteristics. Rounded and smooth, it is an American classic known for its simplicity. Sometimes referred to as “Golden Ale.” These beers can have honey, spices and fruit added, and may be fermented with lager or ale yeast.

 

That messed me up a little while ago, should be "English".

Cheers!

 

Or just “Barleywine” since it is the only barleywine style on BA..

 

There is also... https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/styles/19/

 

Whoops.. My bad. Then I vote for the english berleywine..

 

I'm trying to gauge if it's possible and at what point it is justtied...

English Golden Ale. It's an increasingly common style, yet hasn't a category. A few times I've started to write a review of one and thought 'what category should I put this under?'. I believe I've previously used English Mild Ale, and perhaps English IPA, perhaps even American IPA if it's strikingly floral/fruity.

In fact it's a sub-genre of English Bitter, but to me quite distrinctlively different. The British Beer Judge Certification Programme list it as a distinct style http://www.bjcp.org/style/2015/12/12A/ from English Bitter. In brief, paler colour and usually more exotic hops, even US exotic hops (ie more comtempory/IPA vs a 'trad' English Bitter).

These golden ales are cropping up a lot these days, a specific defined and formal category here might better keep them from being listed under other and erroneous styles.

 

I thought that a thread had been started a while ago to collect suggestions for styles to be added to the BA site, and was going to suggest that you add your request to the 'list'. But I glanced thru the list of threads from my search for threads with 'style' in the title and didn't find it. https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/search/118233270/?q=style&o=date&c[title_only]=1&c[node]=34

Probably if you were to read every thread you'd see a comment that BA is going to revise the list in the future, so your thread will add to the notes being collected. Something does need to be done to avoid the situations that you describe. We just need to be patient.

 

Just added a new beer from San Francisco Beer Week. It's a Loral hopped pilsner. Pretty good too, but that is besides the point.

Being that it is an American hop, I figured when adding the beer here, I would do it as an American Pilsner. Well shoot, all I see is an American Imperial Pilsner, and that ain't the place for this 5.4% pilsner.

I'd like to have an addition of American Pilsner as a style option? Thoughts?




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