What styles would you like to see more often?

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  1. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    PART II: How many cases (yeah, cases not singles, not four packs) of these styles will you commit to buying once you start seeing them on the shelves - in some cases "seeing them on the shelves again" - 'cause after 40 years of "craft beer" in the US and the enormous growth of the import segment during the same period, some of these have come and gone and we all know why they disappeared*.

    *HINT- Lack of sales.
     
  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I wouldn't go that far, but the chances would certainly be far greater that the yeast and fermentation would be properly managed.
     
  3. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Is that one of those cocktail inspired beers? Like a mai tai ipa? :smirk:
     
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  4. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    At risk of repeating others, I’ll cherry-pick the responses I resonate with most :smile:
     
  5. eppCOS

    eppCOS Grand Pooh-Bah (4,570) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    +1, THOSE. :+1:
     
  6. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,215) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    So far it looks like we have more than a handful of requests for more English Bitter and Mild ales, a good number of votes for Czech Dark Lager, Schwarzbier and Rauchbier, a few votes for Black IPA and Baltic Porter, some votes for Maibock and different Bock styles, a couple votes for Scottish Ales, Munich Dunkel, Vienna Lager, Strong ales and Barleywines that aren't barrel aged, Lambic styles, and non-fruited traditional Berliner Weisses. A lot of requests for more traditional classic styles that aren't super hopped up or fruited.

    I would like to see more of everything that people have mentioned because I've had some beers I liked from just about all of those styles that I've tried. Old Ale, Dortmunder Export Lager, Faro, Biere de Champagne, Roggenbier, Eisbock, English ales especially pale ales and Brown ales, Wheatwines, Sahti, and more. Some of these styles I have only had 1 beer from because they aren't very common and easy to find in stores or released from breweries. Some of them I am generally a fan of and would like to see more of just because I'd like to be able to find more good ones to drink, and maybe take some space away from the million of NEIPAs, milkshake beers, hard seltzer, and whatever other mostly sameness is taking up shelves these days.

    I would also like to see more of the beer styles that I've never tried before in stores so I can actually try one... like a Kvass, Japanese Happoshu, and I guess I never tried an English Pale Mild Ale. I also have Braggot unlisted, I have seen that Sam Adams Honey Queen before and I regret not getting it way back when. More of those would be nice too, I'm a fan of honey. :beers:

    That is important.
    I would like to see some better attempts at this. I don't want them proliferating shelves again like the NEIPA or first rise of the Brut IPA, but I would like some well done examples. Part of the style I thought was it was supposed to feel really light and have a crisp champagne-like effervescence. Some of the ones I had felt a little more carbonated and lighter bodied, but some of them felt forced, some of them had diacetyl, and some of them weren't that different from a heavy hazy NEIPA. I would like a nice hoppy Brut IPA, maybe with Nelson hops to help mimic the champagness, with a real light body and super crisp effervescence like a champagne. Not sure if I'll ever have that though.
    Czech Dark Lager x2, I like it. I thought I had tried a few Czech Dark Lagers but under European Dark Lager on here it says I have only had 1 from the style, and it is probably too good of an example to compare to others. I was up at Hill Farmstead the week that they had Rhetorica on tap. That was one of my favorite lagers and dark beers in general, and maybe beers in general due to balance of flavor and drinkability that I've ever had. I love dark lagers.
    Ah yes Altbier, the clean German brown ale. I've had a few of those that I'm a fan of too and you don't see them often. We get a couple here from Long Trail in VT and I used to see one from Germany that I don't really see in stores anymore but we can probably still get it. I love brown ales in general too, and the Altbier has an almost lager-like cleanness to it that makes it even more drinkable. I think I'm more of a Helles than Pilsner fan too so I'd like to see a focus on those from craft brewers making lagers.
    Think I've only had 1 from each of those styles. I had a local Roggenbier from Night Shift and it was pretty cool and different. The Lindemans Faro I had was nice, and I wish I grabbed more bottles when I got it because that is a style I never see anyone even consider. Maybe when more spontaneous lambic-style brews come about from the US some of the breweries will try making a Faro? It is definitely interesting with the sweetness balancing the sour wild lambic beer.
    Hopefully most people think we have enough already... I do enjoy a lactose and fruited beer on occasion but after a while it is sort of just pick what fruit you want and it's the same heavy feeling beer underneath. I don't mind having a few good ones around, but there are a lot more easy drinking beer styles that are great and should receive more attention I think. Hopefully some craft brewers will start making them again.
    I'd like to see more breweries local or regional start making some of the classic traditional styles again. It doesn't have to be full force let's replace the market, but just a smaller sustainable batch here and there would be nice, maybe a few times a year from each brewery or something. Every brewer has a different style and what they like to brew so not everybody will want to have a take on everything, but I hope some breweries are starting to realize at least that it's getting boring having 10 different NEIPAs to pick from and having to go to Total Wine if you want a more traditional beer. I guess each market bears a different demand for supply.
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Lucky you!
    Yup. A well made Czech Dark Lager has the attributes you mentioned above.

    Unfortunately Czech Dark Lagers are hard to find. I mostly drink my homebrewed version:

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    Na Zdravi!
     
  8. Judgie

    Judgie Pundit (836) Nov 21, 2012 Indiana

    In 3 words, or letters: ESB!
     
  9. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    No, just a full-strength Mild. 10-11% ABV.
     
  10. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Apparantly I'm the only one who has heard of an old fashioned.
     
  11. johnnybgood1999

    johnnybgood1999 Savant (1,000) Oct 31, 2008 Virginia

    American pale wheat ale
    Wits
    Stouts in the 5%-6.5% range.

    These were the staples of my beer habit until a few years ago. Now there are ZERO 6 packs available for any of the styles above at my closest kroger.
     
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  12. BJB13

    BJB13 Pooh-Bah (2,788) Feb 18, 2017 Maryland
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    Already mentioned but:

    Wee Heavy
    English Brown, Bitter and Dark Mild
    German Helles, Schwarzbier and Kellerbier (which I don't think was mentioned)
     
  13. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Keep an eye on Forest & Main's can releases - about a month ago I got cans of one of their English Bitters delivered. Right now they have a canned Mild available.
     
  14. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    I kinda feel like the breweries that are catering to a local community and not the hype train do a pretty good job of providing the styles I enjoy. Maybe not all the time, but at least seasonally.

    I just miss cask ale. Hopefully, folks will still be making it once it's actually safe to go out again.
     
  15. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I was disappointed when I when I stopped into my local beer store earlier this week and couldn't find a single Schwarzbier. No German imports, and they didn't have Uinta's Baba either.

    Would love to see more dark beers other than just Imperial Stouts - dunkel lager, doppelbock, dunkelweizen, lower abv porters, etc.

    I just home brewed an American Black Ale / Black IPA because of the lack of availability of those.
     
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  16. polloenfuego

    polloenfuego Pooh-Bah (2,346) Jan 26, 2013 Canada (NB)
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    In my area, like many, almost the only thing available these days is IPA. Specifically hazy, juicy, NEIPA and analogues.

    So, anything else.Honestly anything.

    Do I have preferences? Sure:

    I'd love a well made west coast IPA. So hard to find in my part of the world.

    English styles: dark milds, old ales, bitters
    Foreign export stouts
    Belgian styles
    Wee heavy

    And many of the others I have seen listed here. Variety is needed, and can only make the industry stronger.
     
  17. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    IPAs. So hard to come by.
    Oh, seriously?
    Gueuze. So damn refreshing.
    And I can't get enough saisons, if done right.
    And how did I almost forget Berliner weisse?
    I'm getting thirsty.
     
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  18. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Heck, wouldn't it be a perfect world if we could go into a beer store and be guaranteed that every style on Beer Advocate was represented with at least 2 fresh and reasonable quality beers options...I'd be in heaven. Then drive 30+ miles to check out a different county/state and have a whole different set of breweries but still get the same variety of beer options across all styles. I know I'm dreaming but that would be a pretty darn cool situation.
     
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  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks for the tip.

    Just a month ago I homebrewed my annual batch of English Bitter Ale and it is drinking quite nicely right now.:yum:

    Cheers!
     
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  20. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Our Wisconsin contingent ought to be chiming in any time now...
     
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