What styles would you like to see more often?

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  1. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    Unflavored Berliner Weiße is deliciously refreshing, an ideal summer beer.
    1809 is superb, but $7/.5l.
    I can't find a single Berliner anywhere around me that isn't flavored with raspberry, guava, passion fruit, etc.
     
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  2. ktr5010

    ktr5010 Savant (1,028) Dec 12, 2014 Illinois
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    Non-hazy pale ales, IPAs, and doubles
    Non-adjunct barrel aged stouts
    Rye, wheat, and barleywine
    Berliner Weisse
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I take it you have not located Ithaca Cayuga Cruiser yet? It must be out right now since there have been a number of recent discussions of this beer on Untapped:

    https://untappd.com/b/ithaca-beer-company-cayuga-cruiser/627874

    It has been a while since I have had this beer (2015 is my guess). Below is something I posted in a thread from 2015:

    “I finally found Cayuga Cruiser on draft and had a pint. It is very, very good! Just the right amount of tartness for my palate, a little bit of citrus spritz, and a light breadiness. Ithaca nailed it this year!”

    Cheers!
     
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  4. IronLover

    IronLover Pooh-Bah (1,852) Apr 17, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Saisons
    Imperial Pilsners
     
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  5. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    Thanks, sadly according to the website the last release was as part of the spring 2019 variety pack.
    In the Mid-Atlantic forum I asked about any distributed in upstate NY or eastern PA/western NJ (son now lives in Easton) with no luck.

    Edit-Just pulled it up on UT and it looks like it is being sold in cans. I'll email them to see if it's anywhere around me
     
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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yup. Good Luck here.

    Cheers!

    P.S. Please let me know what you think of the 2020 batch.
     
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  7. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Actually in Blighty we have a lot of Scottish Ales but they are exactly the same as English ones. Within the normal variation to be expected from one brewery to the next. They are simply Ales which happen to be brewed North of the border.
    The term "bitter" is in decline. It was simply a name for Pale Ale on draught, when sold alongside Mild.
     
  8. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    If you feel like you are currently seeing a good range of what's out there today, between "pale ale," "amber," "bitter," (just) "ale," or something else... how would you currently rank the terms according to what you see the most?
     
  9. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    Will do,
    BTW I really liked the Únětický Pivovar 12°. Much fuller tasting than I was expecting.
    My overall was “an excellent Czech pale lager. Filling enough that you don't feel like chugging it down, while refreshing enough to make you want to reach for another when your glass is finally empty. This beer exemplifies spending an entire summer afternoon sitting in a biergarten nibbling on snacks and chatting with friends.”
     
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Permit me to ask an 'experimental' question: if someone were to hand this beer to you blind (i.e., you did not know the brewery/brand name) what style of beer do you think you would guess this beer to be?

    Cheers!
     
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  11. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    TBH I'm not sure.
    I would have recognized it as a European, probably Czech, style lager, but I don't think I would identify it as a pilsner. The two other “bohemian style” pilsners I've had lately (Sunny Ridge & Von Trapp) as well as Urqell are noticably thinner.
    This beer had the rare ability to feel substantial, yet leave you wanting more. Unfortunately I haven't had enough genuine Czech lagers to tell if that's a quality of this beer or of the Czech pale lager style.
     
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  12. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    The name Pale Ale was coined to describe Ales brewed using Pale, as opposed to the normal Brown, malt. It did not imply that the actual drink was pale. So Black Pale Ale was not tautology.
    Bitter is simply what Pale Ale on draught was named, to distinguish it from Mild Ale which was at the time not dark. I have enjoyed many pints of Young's Bitter though Young's brewery records show none being made, it was called PA.
    So Pale Ales and Bitters have always existed in a wide range of colours from very pale to rich Ruby and even darker. But all are simply variations on the same theme, despite CAMRA, which should have known better, decided to split off Golden Ales even though many Bitters have been golden for a century or two.
     
  13. Ahonky

    Ahonky Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2018 New York

    There aren't many examples like 1809. That was my first BW, and haven't had one that held a candle to it since. Of course Gose stole BW's thunder and then got fruited to hell and back, and then gave birth to the generic American kettle sour epidemic
     
  14. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Pils using different hops, Mason Jar uses Mosaic, I’d like to see Citra, or Amarillo, whatever.
     
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  15. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I'm aware of that. Sorry, I wasn't being clear. I was reacting to your comment: "The term bitter is in decline." I know some English beers have switched to being marketed as "amber" recently. I was wondering if you've personally seen a drop in the word "bitter" in what's available by you... and if so, what's the most popular term being used to replace it?
     
  16. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California

    Leave pilsners alone!
     
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  17. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,215) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    As long as we still have traditional Czech and German pilsners as well, I like some of the dry hopped ones.
     
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  18. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Most Pale Ales are just given individual names such as Landlord, Wherry or London Pride to give three well known examples.
    Bitter is regarded by many as being old fashioned (why this constitutes a problem I don't know,) so a perfectly good Marstons Bitter is now Amber. Stupid thing is that Marstons lost a lot of sales before I realised that the beer was still available. Lovely go to beer, undemanding but lovely for an enjoyable pint.
     
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  19. Ahonky

    Ahonky Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2018 New York

    Then it ceases to be a pils. Some styles cannot be bastardized
     
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  20. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Why would that be? Cannot a Pils still use modern hops? Everything else would remain the same keeping the IBUs in the same ball park, just different hops. It’s a break is tradition, but does it break the style guidelines?
     
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