Cans

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Dannywhitewash, Dec 6, 2012.

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  1. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    OK. Picky, picky. Both are metals. I don't homebrew so I can't be bothered reading every single debate in the forum. lol.
     
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  2. Proclarush

    Proclarush Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2012 Maryland

    Honestly. For me personally, every beer out of a can taste like can. I can't get over it, I just don't like it. Glass Bottles FTW.
     
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  3. robinsmv

    robinsmv Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2010 Florida

    Tl;dr in order to use an aluminum pot for brewing you have to boil water in it first so an oxide layer can form. If you don't form that protective layer the wort will react with the aluminum and creat metallic flavors in your beer. Stainless steel has a much stronger oxide layer that is already in place from the manufacturing process and is much less reactive. All of this is negated by the liners, which have their own debate going on that has already been mention in this thread
     
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  4. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Because it keeps the beer fresher... duh.
     
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  5. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Ask her if she's ever had a can of soda or any canned food. If she has a pet then see if she's given them canned food ever. If she says yes to anything then help her down off her high horse.
     
  6. canucklehead

    canucklehead Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2003 Canada (BC)

    You really notice the difference in freshness in BC where many euro lagers and pils such as Pilsner Urquell and Grolsch come in both bottles and tall cans. The cans win every time.
     
  7. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Not to mention all the minute encounters with radiation that *could* be harmful to her health in large doses. Does she ever walk around in the sun?
     
  8. WickedSluggy

    WickedSluggy Savant (1,129) Nov 21, 2008 Texas

    I don't care what anyone says. Cans taste like metal! Bottles have no taste at all except for the blue ones (but that might be my imagination). Still, I can't reccommend the blue ones. Cans are more difficult to sample fresh. If you use a bench grinder, you are going to taste the pulverized grinding media. You can add small pieces to a ball mill and let it run for a couple weeks, but then its not fresh, and be carefull because the dust can explode when you open it.
     
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  9. fmccormi

    fmccormi Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2010 California

    BeerPulse published a bit on the can vs. bottle debate, specifically with the positions taken by Jim Koch (Sam Adams) / Ray Daniels (Cicerone) and Bill Manley (Sierra Nevada). I thought it was a good, if brief, overview on the whole thing: http://beerpulse.com/2012/07/sierra-nevada-on-the-cans-vs-bottles-debate/

    Some people have said the plastic lining of the can absorbs some flavor, and from what I've read tests have shown that the plastic lining of bottle caps can absorb as much if not more of the flavor, as well. Feel free to check me on that if I'm wrong, but that's what I seem to recall.
    Wha . . . ?
     
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  10. ChanChan

    ChanChan Maven (1,341) Dec 12, 2009 California

    Is this a thing in NY?:stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  11. fmccormi

    fmccormi Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2010 California

    For what it's worth, I personally trust Sierra Nevada's take on this issue, given their reputation for ridiculously high quality control.
     
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  12. Thirstygoat

    Thirstygoat Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2012 Illinois
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    Recently I ordered a dozen or so beers online. That included 6 cans of Ten Fidy. Right after the UPS guy left I noticed a really good smell emanating from the carton. Though well packed one can had a small puncture. Half the beer was still in it The rest made it fine?
     
  13. Duesler

    Duesler Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2012 Connecticut

    I'm against making anything illegal, the variety of 12oz bottles and bombers and cans and tall boys and 750s and 40s and growlers and kegs.... makes it interesting, dont restrict the game!
     
  14. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado


    Not yet but I'm trying to get something started.
     
  15. MagillaGriller

    MagillaGriller Initiate (0) Aug 20, 2012

    Two Daisy Cutters
     
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  16. duchessedubourg

    duchessedubourg Savant (1,181) Nov 2, 2007 Vermont

    She's a PhD in microbiology, and health issues re: food packaging are a big deal. She used to work for a big food-testing company. She buys everything in glass. Will send her to the Sierra Nevada site, though - thanks for that.
     
  17. fmccormi

    fmccormi Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2010 California

    This one, specifically: http://www.sierranevada.com/faqs_ales.asp#bpa
     
  18. pghlee

    pghlee Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2006 Georgia

    07 Ten Fidy still tastes fine
     
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  19. fmccormi

    fmccormi Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2010 California

    Again, are you pouring it into a glass?

    If so, and it still tastes like a can, then the odds are it's just in your head. Which is not an invalid factor—whatever you need to optimize your drinking experience, then so be it.
     
  20. ndepriest

    ndepriest Zealot (714) Feb 21, 2012 Georgia
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    I think if everything moves to cans we'll start seeing prices lower for craft beers. From the places I buy it at least, Maduro has gotten around $1 cheaper since switching to cans.
     
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