Which craft breweries need to shrink?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by otispdriftwood, Dec 6, 2012.

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  1. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    We've all seen the threads about this brewery needs to expand or that brewery needs to add states to its distribution. Now it's time for the polar opposite. Read the title - no BMC breweries [because they ALL need to shrink.]

    I'll start with Rogue.
     
  2. Treebs

    Treebs Pooh-Bah (1,728) Apr 18, 2011 Illinois
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    None of them.

    Also, Rogue doesn't need to shrink. It just needs to stop brewing stupid fucking beer.
     
  3. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    Alpine. I want it to go back to where dipshit bottleshops from the Bay Area weren't sending mules down to clean them out.
     
  4. Dannywhitewash

    Dannywhitewash Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2010 Ohio

    dogfish head. I'll probably get mulled for saying that..
     
  5. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    You mean you don't care for a beer brewed with pages from a novel?
     
  6. crusian

    crusian Pooh-Bah (1,989) May 14, 2010 Oregon
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    Oh man, so many to choose from.
    Go to local craft beer store. Close eyes... Point. Chances are pretty good you will hit one that makes mediocre beer and needs to shrink. There are plenty of good ones... But more not so good ones.
     
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  7. Treebs

    Treebs Pooh-Bah (1,728) Apr 18, 2011 Illinois
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    I'd rather have a 6th barrel of anything White Birch or Indian Wells.
     
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  8. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    I agree. I don't want anyone to shrink (although I wouldn't mind seeing BMC's market share shrink), but it seems like Rogue is getting a bit silly. There is a bit of a trend among homebrewers to identify something they like in the food world and try to throw it in beer, with a very limited success rate. It kind of seems like Rogue is doing something similar. I'm all for experimentation, but if no one has put pickled cauliflower or crushed up butterfinger bars into beer before, it's unlikely that it's going to be good.
     
  9. crusian

    crusian Pooh-Bah (1,989) May 14, 2010 Oregon
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    Lol.
     
  10. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Indian Wells is one I could get behind, taking up valuable craft beer space at Whole Foods.

    Same with the garbage Bevmo house beers, Hermitage, Coastal Fog, etc.
    Also, Bayhawk and all their contract beers can go away.
     
  11. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    So this is basically a "what brewery do you dislike" thread?
     
  12. Cugabuh

    Cugabuh Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012 Massachusetts

    I came into this topic to post the exact same thing. Between the TV show and mass distribution, I think the expansion has gotten to their heads. Some of their beers are just ridiculous nowadays...
     
  13. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2008 California

    It seems odd that a well established brewer like Alpine couldn't rustle up $3 million last year from private investors for expansion but there are literally dozens of start-ups flooding the Southern California market right now with money from somewhere.
     
  14. mixed_master7

    mixed_master7 Initiate (0) May 16, 2012 Florida

    Hit that one on the head...
     
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  15. stabbingcontest

    stabbingcontest Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2010 Massachusetts

    why would you want any brewery to "shrink"? i would like to hear some well constructed arguments for this that are not selfish or based on "i dont like them." something strong enough to justify financial failure and hardship on the employees and their families.
     
  16. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2008 California

    1. Expanded brewery skimps on ingredients, product suffers. "The beer sucks but there sure is a lot of it".
    2. Expanded brewery takes up more shelf space resulting in less shelf space for other quality brews.
    3. Expanded brewery takes on too much debt, collapses under financial pressures causing hardships to vendors, lenders, partners, etc.
     
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  17. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    Exactly my thoughts.
     
  18. gtermi

    gtermi Initiate (0) Apr 21, 2010 Texas

    That sums it up right there. NO breweries should shrink
     
  19. Dannywhitewash

    Dannywhitewash Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2010 Ohio

    Or 'beard yeast'...
     
  20. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    Sounds semi negative so the way I'll look at it is what needs to shrink because of freshness issues. To me it ALWAYS seems hoppy stuff from Founders and Ballast Point are out of date. So it would be nice for some breweries to cut their distro on some hoppy beers.
     
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