Cans

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Dannywhitewash, Dec 6, 2012.

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  1. StubFaceJoe

    StubFaceJoe Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2011 Colorado

    There is no "could" about this issue any more. Do a quick search and you can find tons of studies...

    Not saying I don't completely ignore them since Ten Fidy and Gordon only come in cans.
     
  2. BeerSocrates12

    BeerSocrates12 Aspirant (291) Dec 6, 2012 Texas

    Well as I see it I believe in most cases there is a sort of nostalgia to having beers and aging them in bottles. In most cases it does seem there are some advantages to cans(preserving hops, protecting from sunlight, ect..)But I believe certain beers like Belgian strong ales and Barleywines benefit from bottles due to their potential to continually condition and carbonate in the bottle. I don't know for sure but it may be a bad idea to condition beer in a can. Just another log to the fire...
     
  3. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Huh? Just because studies show that BPA is poisonous doesn't mean the amount you consume by drinking a can of beer is harmful. The BPA in a beer can "could" harm you, but only if you drank 450 cans in a short amount of time.
     
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  4. robinsmv

    robinsmv Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2010 Florida

    I've never used a heine pot, but I did just make my first beer can alcohol stove the other night. Can't do that with a bottle.
     
  5. Drtfinelli

    Drtfinelli Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2012 New Hampshire

    Clearly you haven't had Heady... we need to change that:slight_smile:
     
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  6. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2011 California


    Agreed 100%!
     
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  7. Spikester

    Spikester Pooh-Bah (2,027) Jul 14, 2007 Oregon
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    And repeat 10,000 times.
     
  8. Spikester

    Spikester Pooh-Bah (2,027) Jul 14, 2007 Oregon
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    Long term storage for cans is much better than bottles assuming storage is not too warm. No light struck cans.
     
  9. Adrian000

    Adrian000 Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2012

    As stated by others here, Cans allow zero light penetration, zero chance of a leak or cantamination. Some claim that the metal can imprint flavor into the beer but from someone who works at a brewery I can assure you the cans we use as well as 99% of cans used on the market now have a plastic lining which would prevent this from happening. I pour all my beer into various kinds of glasswear anyway. I would drink everything in cans if I could!
     
  10. LAD

    LAD Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2008 Texas

    Is this a guess? Do you have facts to back up your assertion that long term storage is better for cans than bottles?
     
  11. robmoak

    robmoak Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2012 Mississippi

    I like cans because of their portability and ability to maintain freshness, but I usually buy bottles because I can put my home brew in them. Also, I usually find bottles more aesthetic and will sometimes hold on to special bottles as momentos. I don't know of many people with a good can collection... except for this guy:
     
  12. Spikester

    Spikester Pooh-Bah (2,027) Jul 14, 2007 Oregon
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    No. But it stands to reason that the light struck issue would be a no-brainer. Unless you assume that long term storage would somehow affect the taste via can lining. Some folks insist that they can taste aluminum is any canned beer they drink. Not my experience. If the canned beer is sitting in a non-refrigerated (high temp.) warehouse maybe that would be a game changer. The only beer I have had that was sub-par was the Church Key lager that had some sealing issues and had a wide variation in seal quality. Some of those cans were reported to rupture and lose all carbonation. Otherwise a tasty canned beer.
     
  13. searsclone

    searsclone Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2006 Arizona

    Personally, I think cans are great. The biggest issue that I have is the cost. According to the brewers that I asked, the cans are currently more labor intensive to package, and therefore, cost more than bottles. Hopefully, eventually, the price will come down to match bottles. Also, even though I shouldn't do it, drinking from the can seems to make them go down much easier.
     
  14. fauxpunker

    fauxpunker Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2012

    Oskar Blues just recently became available in my area. They shattered my beliefs about cans being an inferior form of delivery.
     
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  15. StubFaceJoe

    StubFaceJoe Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2011 Colorado


    Dude, I'm just sayin this stuff ain't great, but what are you gonna do it's there. Probably not that big of a deal. Hence the rest of my post about drinking it anyway.

    The only thing I really worry about is long term aging and what the can/liner could turn into.
     
  16. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Drink it don't age it, most canned stuff needs to be consumed fresh, hell even Ten Fidy doesn't need aging. IMO most aging is over rated.
     
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  17. Proclarush

    Proclarush Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2012 Maryland

    True, and very true.
     
  18. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,999) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    Any thoughts on the new generation of bottle-shaped cans? I just got The Deuce from Oskar Blues which is packaged in what Miller-Coors brags as their innovative "Aluminum Pint." And yes, it's easily re-sealable or rescrewable, and invite you to pour in a glass instead of scraping your lips on the thin edge.
     
  19. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,999) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    Dude, he's got a Lucky Bock can! but thanks for sharing
     
  20. LAD

    LAD Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2008 Texas

    For large brewers cans are less costly to run. It takes fewer people to run a can line and can line speeds are usually much higher than bottle line speeds.
     
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