Online Beer Tastings - Idea Submission Thread (2016 - 2021)

Discussion in 'The Bar' started by Harrison8, Dec 20, 2016.

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What theme or style would you like to see be featured in the next online tasting? (Select up to 3)

Poll closed Feb 15, 2021.
  1. "Chocolate beers"

    5 vote(s)
    18.5%
  2. Dark lagers (sub styles tbd)

    15 vote(s)
    55.6%
  3. Porters (sub styles tbd)

    16 vote(s)
    59.3%
  4. Quads

    8 vote(s)
    29.6%
  5. Scotch ales/Wee heavies

    12 vote(s)
    44.4%
  6. Smoked beers

    7 vote(s)
    25.9%
  7. Stouts (non barrel aged / non-adjunct)

    12 vote(s)
    44.4%
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  1. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    What's wrong with groupthink? We're not selecting a champion.
     
  2. psweendogg

    psweendogg Maven (1,411) Jun 30, 2005 Connecticut
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    As a newcomer to this thread, I was just hoping to encourage creativity by asking for individual input to get things kickstarted. As soon as the polls get posted, majority prevails.

    The first post of this "Idea Submission Thread" says that this is about the BA community and that we should provide as much input as possible. Due to the reception that I have received on here (after posting ideas that didn't conform to the established schedule or infringe upon previously tasted styles), I have quickly realized that this is more about accommodating the people that "run" this thread and not the BA community at large. I'm fine with that... let me know when the next one is and I'll probably join any way.

    After being unceremoniously dismissed, here's what I don't quite understand... If I were to post a tasting thread every other week for the entire year that covered every single style on BeerAdvocate, what would be the downside?
     
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  3. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Speaking only for myself, I think you are misinterpreting my remarks on your suggestions.

    As to the schedule, at my age, participating in a tasting every two weeks means that the beers selected for the tasting will dominate my purchases, almost to the exclusion of all else. Hence, it is too often for me to participate.

    As to the voting, I personally like the "feel" of being a bunch of friends sitting around discussing what beers they will bring to the next share. New friends are always welcome.

    I'm OK with a poll, so long as it does not become antiseptic and still retains the element of human interaction and discussion and consensus. Majority vote and consensus are two very different things. I'd like to keep some elements of the discussion and consensus.

    New ideas (such as yours) are good. They stir the pot.

    But, that's just my view.
     
  4. psweendogg

    psweendogg Maven (1,411) Jun 30, 2005 Connecticut
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    @MNAle I appreciate the open and honest response and it gets right to the core of my question. In your case (and in mine), I don’t think I would necessarily be able to participate every two weeks but over the course of two years, I could cycle through all of the beer styles simply by participating in every other tasting (i.e. every four weeks). I guess this would tie into my own Beer Objectives which include trying a larger variety of styles... and can be done independent of a tasting thread.

    I totally agree that the interaction and discussion are key to everything. I didn’t mean to diminish that aspect of it but I definitely didn’t highlight it. Thanks man.
     
  5. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    So, why don't we try to do a poll for the next tasting? I think its worth a shot!

    Here are the current suggestions I've seen, but if I'm missing something, let me know.

    (in no particular order)
    "Chocolate beers"
    Quads
    Scotch ales/Wee heavies
    Dark lagers (sub styles tbd)
    Smoked beers
    Porters (sub styles tbd)
    Stouts (non-adjunct)

    Bocks were suggested, but the proposal was to wait to it them until April/May which would allow for bocks/maibocks ... I like that idea if people are up for it.

    Once we get the list finalized we can post a poll in a new thread, but the handling of that is going to have to be coordinated since we cannot have a second beer tasting idea thread. We can have up to 10 choices for people to vote on in the poll.

    What I would propose is rather than a single vote, you allow people to vote for their top 3 choices, and then the highest vote getter overall gets chosen for the next tasting. Thoughts? Also, we would probably want to keep it open for a week to allow as many people to vote as possible ...
     
  6. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    Porters is (are?) a great idea. Seasonally appropriate, wide variety and easily obtainable, everything from imports & nationals to locals.

    No need to make things too complicated. The style of each tasting has been reached by discussion and consensus, I don't feel that anyone has forced their choice upon the others

    You haven't been dismissed, unceremoniously or otherwise :wink:, past tasting choices have sort of just gone with the flow without being locked into a predetermined beer.
    Someone (anyone) posts “I think [insert beer here] would be a great idea for the next tasting. Here's why.” Anybody who wants to puts in their 2¢ and, eventually, the group reaches mutual agreement on a style. Similar to your poll, but much less formal, and I can't recall anyone claiming their suggestion was ignored or dismissed out of hand.
    There's nothing wrong with a poll to narrow the choices down to two or three, but let forum discussions and give & take determine the final decisions without committing to anything months down the road.

    I enjoy the tasting threads and every four - six weeks works out well. Much more often than that, especially biweekly, would be unaffordable for many BA's (me included) and just plain overkill considering WBAYDN, NBW, and ongoing threads dedicated to particular styles and beers.
     
  7. psweendogg

    psweendogg Maven (1,411) Jun 30, 2005 Connecticut
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    This makes a lot of sense to me and I agree that all of those other threads are great resources to avoid overkill. I proposed biweekly just so every style would have a chance to be highlighted through the year. It didn't really occur to me that people might feel some type of obligation to participate in each and every one. The Barleywine tasting thread was great but if I wasn’t into barleywine, wasn’t available, or didn’t have access to it I would’ve been able to look forward to the next tasting that I could join. I appreciate everything that goes into planning and executing these events and will gladly join the next one.
     
  8. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    On the note of trying difficult to find, or often overlooked styles - what if we had a tasting for just such a thing. "Buy a beer style you've never tried, haven't tried many of, or otherwise been reluctant to try for one reason or another."

    I know for me, if I could find another Faro or Kvass example locally, I'd absolutely participate. It would be fun to hear people's thoughts and remarks while drinking one of these 'fringe' styles (Sahti also comes to mind). Some users may even learn that these styles exist.

    Otherwise, @FBarber 's list sounds great.
     
  9. keithmurray

    keithmurray Pooh-Bah (2,967) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut
    Pooh-Bah

    I'd be down for the bock tasting, but I won't be able to get a hold of a beer that's true to style (unless we include dopplebocks).
     
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  10. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    FWIW, I used the NBS (now NBW) in ~2019 to try all the beer styles. I'd pick up some of the fringe styles and give them a try for NBS. Not quite a tasting, but it was still fun sharing notes with others, especially over styles that may not get mentioned for months in NBS (how many Japanese Happoshus have been reviewed there?)

    @psweendogg
     
  11. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    I get that, you're ambitious :slight_smile:.
    I've looked at the tastings as a way to get people interested in showing and talking about styles which don't get the popular attention they deserve nowadays, but are still accessable to most members, not as a “check off”; if a style isn't chosen this year (shrug) ”oh well, maybe next year, we have plenty of time”.

    Is there really a need to set aside 2 1/2 days extolling the virtues and varieties of NEIPA's, AAL's, IPA's, or candy flavored stouts? The tastings have attempted to have a cohesive theme and trying to get to each style in a year leads to groups of beers that just don't go together (eg 12/31 & 02/12).

    The poll suggestion has merit to narrow down the options, after the vote has determined the top 2 or 3 the proponents of each can try to sway public opinion to their chosen style.

    Finally, as a practical matter, the relative scarcity of the tastings (8ish/year) drives up anticipation of the event, fueling participation and views which, in turn, increases the number of hits and visits to beeradvocate.com which helps us all.
     
  12. psweendogg

    psweendogg Maven (1,411) Jun 30, 2005 Connecticut
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    Sounds like a great way to attack all of the styles... I will plan accordingly!
     
  13. psweendogg

    psweendogg Maven (1,411) Jun 30, 2005 Connecticut
    Trader

    Good points and I have tempered my ambition accordingly. I am definitely looking forward to the next event!
     
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  14. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,786) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    So I should cancel the championship belt I just ordered???
     
  15. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,786) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    as a more serious input to the thread.
    I really like the poll idea.
    I really like users get three votes in the poll and the top three style vote getters advance (instant runoff style)
    Forum thread discusses the top three and selects a weekend to do the event.
    I also like removing recent entries from poll consideration.

    I really dig the planning and analytical approach the @psweendogg brings to this discussion. I love stats and data!
    But every other week for a tasting is too frequent for me. Every 4 to 6 weeks seems a sweet spot.
    I definitely see these events as a way to encourage folks to try new beers and styles. The Bwines worked well for me as my cellar was stocked and I love em.
    What I dont want to see happen is feeling like I need to be in on an event or that I need to drink a beer style.

    TLDR: yay polls, 4 to 6 weeks :slight_smile:, constantly rotate styles.
     
  16. Beer-A-Lot

    Beer-A-Lot Pooh-Bah (2,031) Oct 4, 2012 Virginia
    Pooh-Bah

    How about a good ol' Doppelbock. After all, it is February.
     
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  17. Beer-A-Lot

    Beer-A-Lot Pooh-Bah (2,031) Oct 4, 2012 Virginia
    Pooh-Bah

    Since we did Doppel's in 2019, I'm also good with Quad's.
     
  18. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    Yeah we need to do that quad tasting within a week. I picked up a twisty of a quad done with smoked figs. It won't last much longer.
     
  19. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    It should definitely be a dark, high ABV style. if Wee Heavies are too similar to Barleywines, how about Imperial Stouts and Imperial Porters tasting? Or Belgian Strong Dark Ales and Quadrupels tasting?
     
  20. Rug

    Rug Grand Pooh-Bah (3,454) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    That sounds delicious. What beer is that?
     
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