What Exactly Is A 5.0 Beer Rating?

Personal preference is what drives us. Liver and onions is good for you , it’s healthy . But I hate it, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone, I wouldn’t eat it if you put $100 bill on the table. Beers a kind of food I guess, the ingredients are natural, and people like different things different ways. I’ve got little interest telling anyone what they should drink and how you should drink it. I will give a description of what I’m drinking and how I’m drinking it on NBS to the best if my ability, but I try and avoid general ratings on beers, and I’m a 180 from a ticker, but I get the curiosity to try everything.

 

I don’t see the attraction for cellar temp beers, depending on the style of course. I’d be curious if a London Pub was pushing out 34 degree lagers in frosted mugs if it would be a hit or a bust. It would be contrary to everything they’ve known with beer forever, and most people don’t like change.

Nothing better than after a walk in Charleston in July popping into a quiet little bar sucking up the AC and getting an ice cold Palmetto Lager in a frosted mug. Charleston’s heat and humidity in the summer is abusive and that stuff liquid gold. That’s not the time or place for a 55 degree Stout. Unfortunately we steal away for the day when we’re at the beach to walk and have dinner and it’s always in July, but Charleston is a Dutch Oven of heat and concrete.

 

Didn't say warm, let alone hot. Just not frozen.

 

Perhaps it's the residual talk of bar fights, but thanks to the combo above I'm enjoying the mental image of friends attacking each other at bottle shares. Has someone ever been hit in the face with a Cantillon bottle due to their serving temperature preference? Is that like breaking the fingers of a pool hustler? Beer nerds can be so cruel.

 

Lol. You know it’s about like arguing about the house temp, if someone thinks its a bit chilly well put in a sweatshirt, problem solved. But if it’s too warm what are you supposed to do open the Windows? Beer temps are the same way, you can always let them warm over time and sip slowly, if you prefer it that way, but if some like it a little cooler then what? Your sharing a bottle. If you had two bottles of the same and knowing preferences there’s choices there, but one bottles it’s tough. The bottle shares I’ve been too there were no issues at all, kinda funny the thought of beer nerds brawling over beer temps.

 

I agree, that is a defensible approach, as well. I would probably at least first go through the exercise of re-reading my prior "5" review and then decide if an adjustment is needed, but yea, I could see having more than one "5" beer of the same style. Probably only likely if both beers are very close in characteristics. If I somehow discovered a beer with an attribute that significantly exceeded what I thought was the benchmark for "5", then I would be more likely to downgrade the first beer, but I suspect that at that high level of quality the differences would be quite subtle.
(Nice P-47 in your avatar, BTW, although I prefer the look of the razorback model)

 

Do the judges pit say Miller vs craft lagers or do AALs have there own category? I think we’d all enjoy the craft lager more, but it’s really a different kinda beer too. The pitfalls of any rating statements is bias and personal preference, and I’m certainly guilty of both.

 

Only in best of show. Individual styles are pitted against their own ilk, then each winner of a style goes against each other for BOS.

Each beer is then judged to its own style, but points add up for the winner.

Can a 100 point AAL beat a 99 point RIS? Based on point count, yes.

 

Interesting that in theory it’s a mathematical possibility, it’ll never happen though, but I’ve never been to a beer competition either. I would if I lived in Co. I do find the ratings as we discuss are educational.

 

People involved in judging are a little more focused on what a beer should be to style than the average BA rater/ticker.

 

I’m sure that takes training and focus as well, were all human with personal preferences. But this thread changed my mind on 5s, I can see it from a different angle and I think I’ve been wrong in that regard. There’s room for as many 5s as you see appropriate, not just the one ultimate.

 

We don't know what beers/breweries are entered in each style category in the World Beer Cup other than the three winners names that are made public (that mystery is probably true for all competitions). I didn't do the research to see if one of the three macro breweries always takes first place in the light lager category every year, but I know that they didn't in 2018 when one of my local breweries accomplished that task. https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/37717/301609/

 

I see it’s rotating and seasonal, given it’s Feb and 12 degrees out wonder why if it’s a seasonal why not a summer beer? Red Oad self fit to make their Pils a July bottling, the brewers more interjsed in his seasonal bocks I guess.

 

[QUOTE="steveh, post: 7188379, member: 3211"
Funny about hot climates, Guinness Export Stout is a popular beer in many of them. And I doubt it's served ice cold.[/QUOTE]

When I drank it in Belize many years ago the bottle came straight from a bucket of ice. I had one for lunch almost every day and I would walk down the street letting it warm up before taking a sip.

 

WTF are you talking about??? How did we go from beer to boxing?

Also there are plenty of MMA fighters in a similar weight class who would destroy Tyson in his prime. It’s apples and tables, not even close to the same type of fighting. Also not sure what Australia has to do with anything.

Maybe let’s stick to beer.

 

Lol! Liver and onions is as polarizing as a lot of beers but when done right, It can be right up my alley.

 

Never assume -- even at a tourist trap in Belize.

I'm pretty sure that silly gimmick finally died. I remember seeing it 20 years ago -- Guinness was attempting to draw the youngsters who were drinking fizzy yellow lager ice cold.
@jesskidden ?

 

Yuck, I just can’t, my uncle used to bread and fry deer hearts. I’d eat my shoe first.