Over the Rainbow? Why Queer Beer Is Important

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Did we just become best friends?!?!

 

Race and sexuality are completely different issues and lumping them both together as interchangeable shows that you truly do not understand either culture.

 

Yeah, advertisers would NEVER promote heterosexual/hypermasculine qualities with their beer. The WOKE POLICE would've be all over it.
What? No I haven't seen any AAL/BUD/MILLER TV spots in the last half century. Why do you ask?

 

That's where you're wrong. Both of those are issues of human beings who are being mistreated and discriminated against. Equal human acceptance for all!

 

Sounds like you've never heard of intersectionality

 

As much as some people might hate it, race and sexual orientation issues in this country are not the same struggle. Same sex male couples are, on average, wealthier than heterosexual couples and same sex female couples are right at the average.

Black folks on the other hand, more specifically ADOS people, had nearly 5+ generations of productivity literally stolen from them and were denied opportunity for another 15ish generations. Their economic position in this country is still dismal even when it's diluted by the inclusion of wealthy African immigrants.

No doubt the queer community has faced unfair treatment, harassment, and prejudice. But it's not even in the same league as the explicit, skin tone based subservience that racial minorities have endured.

 

His example simply substituted one for the other. Intersectionality would be more along the lines of pointing out where the two cultures were combined or, you know, intersected...

 

No doubt! It's unspeakable and really sad that they still have to deal with the same issues that they've been dealing with for generations.

 

So being gay and being black are interchangeable? Got it.

 

You just said I was wrong for saying the same thing... make up your mind.

 

"Don't read it" and "don't comment" are plenty different though. There are plenty of threads I hateread here on BA with some comment or opinion I disagree with. I may even type some disagreement and often I move on before posting because I'm not actually adding anything to the thread by disagreeing nor do the people in that thread need me to chime in with what I think. As an Other Half and Evil Twin fan, clearly I'll find plenty of opinions I disagree with when people start posting stupid things in, "Should beer taste like kool-aid?" and while I don't mean to draw a parallel between the subject nature of this (important) thread and that much more trivial one, I do think people upset with this one could move on the same way I move on in those.

Are we allowed to have a little corner of BA to talk about issues of representation? Can some of us talk about identity and beer once in a while because we think it matters? May we have an article or two? Nobody is turning WBAYDN into W(LGBTQIA+)BAYDN or removing the regional forums to instead be the gender identity forums. Is BA big enough for someone to write an article highlighting the importance of bars and nightlife culture in the struggle for rights? Obviously I'm biased, but I don't see why "Yes" isn't the answer to those questions.

 

No, I definitely did not do that. But you're more than welcome to take it and twist it, however it fits your agenda.



Have a good one!

 

Instead of acting like an insolent child why don't you explain why you brought BLM up as what appeared to be an equivalent? Or are you simply being a reactionary in this thread?

 

@Todd Love the article, but as typically happens the thread has become one long shitcussion. As someone who has spent his adult life fighting for multiple forms of inclusion in a wide variety of contexts, the work that Todd and others at BA are doing means more to me than most people can imagine. I am so encouraged by the efforts to raise awareness and actively, intentionally promote inclusion through cleaning up the forums, articles that highlight good work being done throughout the wider beer world, and putting a spotlight on certain breweries (quick aside, I am counting down the hours until I can crack open the Weathered Souls & beerthuglife IPAs next week).
These damn threads, tho. It's just a constant stream of name calling, ad hominem attacks, willful misrepresentation, and over-the-top defensiveness. I applaud those who have attempted to engage in cogent, thoughtful discussion but they have been buried by garbage coming from both sides, including my lame-a** attempt at injecting some levity (yep, I'll own that it wasn't a particularly helpful post). I mean, does anyone who has posted in this thread think about the issue differently than they did 26 hours ago? It's frustrating how pathetically predictable threads like this end up being and how much of a squandered opportunity they seem to represent.

 

I have been supporting a queer beer nanobrewery since it opened -- Servaes Brewing Co. Its second anniversary is this weekend. Its hashtag is brewedbyagirl, who is the married Courtney Servaes. When I was there earlier this week, bartender Beau was talking about how he had been folding the rainbow-colored logo T-shirts for this weekend, joking that he had laundry to do at home. If he had known ...
Servaes might be a place in my Beer Advocate profile. It has a niche of sours and fruit beers, but it can turn out good IPAs and boozy stouts, too. I'll be supporting its second anniversary this weekend. More beers than usual, with appropriate themes and collaborations, have been brewed for the occasion.
Brewed by a girl.

 

The aggressiveness in this thread is amusing. Quite a bit of overreaction on that first page - sharing an opinion that using beer to express a political or social viewpoint is an unwelcome turn of events isn’t an attack on the viewpoint expressed. The reaction reeks of virtue signaling.

This is a gimmicky marketing ploy similar to recent clear hazy IPA and cold IPA and deserves the same kind of reaction

 

Budweiser, Miller, and Coors have all ran commercials in my lifetime displaying and, in many instances, glorifying "manliness" and the objectification of women. Were those beers being used to express a political opinion?

 

No and the stretch required to make the argument that naming a beer Gay IPA and marketing a product towards a certain demographic is derived from the same thinking borders very closely on absurdity.

To me, a better comparison to those old beer adds would be this one by Bailey’s:

https://youtu.be/4S96ikP6Mgw

 

That’s exactly the point. Thinking a beer named Gay IPA is making a political statement borders very closely on absurdity.

 

I was wondering if they were LGBTQ+, but didn't want to jump to conclusions. I bought their barleywine and BA barleywine recently, but haven't been able to try either just yet.

Was thinking about visiting them on Sunday! Was hoping they would bring back the mix-4 pack for their anniversary this year.