Online Tasting - Pilsner July 14-16 - Planning Thread

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have seen Schilling beers at my local Retail Beer Distributor from time to time. I guess we receive periodic drops?

    I have enjoyed drinking various Schilling brands including Alexandr (see link below) but the quality to price point is a 'disconnect' for me. Hopefully the folks in New Hampshire (etc.) can obtain these beers at a more economical price.

    Cheers!

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/new-beer-weekend-38.657313/#post-7229300
     
  2. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Heineken USA told DS (Demand Solutions) Magazine in their Spring, 2008 issue:
    But, yeah, I'd imagine the time to cross the Atlantic - and especially to unload a ship in those pre-container times - might have meant a longer time frame.

    Yeah, the Cullen-Harrison Act (which changed the Federal definition of "non-intoxicating" from under 0.5% abv to less than 3.2% abw) was signed by FDR on March 22, 1933 (Presidential inauguration was in early March back then) and went into effect on April 7, but only in states that also changed their laws in time.
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    Reading industry sources, especially after the Nov. 32 election, it was assumed by many that the Volstead Act would be changed (there was a debate over 3.2 vs 2.75, even within the industry) and, eventually, Prohibition would be repealed and lots of breweries were getting ready even before the C-H Act. I imagine importers were aware of that, too.

    Here's an interesting report (below, left) only weeks after FDR's election that might have been either false -wishful thinking? - or the brewery thought better of it.
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  3. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Do you recall how much it was locally? Alexandr is $13 a 4-pack at the brewery in NH.
     
  4. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I didn't realize that Sly Fox did different versions of the Slugger label. I am guessing you are in the Western part of the state since those are the Pirates' colors. I've only seen the lablels that use the Phil's vintage maroon and powder blue color scheme
     
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  5. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,786) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    South Central area (Harrisburg) I actually had the choice of Phils or Pirates ...directly next to each other on the shelf.
     
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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The last four-pack of Schilling beer I purchased at my local Retail Beer Distributor was $18 plus tax.

    I picked it up and put it down a couple of times before purchasing it. Schilling makes good beer but not >16 bucks good IMO.

    Cheers!
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    So, you are a Pirates fan!?!

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    Cheers!
     
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  8. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I think you are making it more confusing than it needs to be. (Not that it's not inherently confusing though... and I can certainly be guilty of the same. :slight_smile:)

    A brewer adding "___-style" isn't suggesting that it's not in that style... they are suggesting that it is in that style. It can be a relatively meaningless addition, but it is often used when a beer style name is protected (like Kölsch), potentially misleading (like barley wine), or when a style name has the region of origin in its name (New England IPA). That last situation is the case with Pilsner beer and Pilsen the city (Pilsner is beer from Pilsen), although this might not be the direct reason for a brewer to choose "pilsner-style" these days.
     
  9. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    It's also US labeling law for an imported beer not from the Czech Republic.
    Pilsen/Pilsener/Pilsner is one of the few style/type geographical names that the TTB makes an exception for US brewers. Take for instance these examples:
    Except, of course, the styles that the TTB rules have "Lost geographic significance (See list in linked post)". :grin:
     
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  10. Cstamp3084

    Cstamp3084 Pundit (902) May 3, 2020 Maryland
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    What beers do you think are worth 16 bucks? I’m a big schilling fan boy but I’m always down to try new breweries.
     
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  11. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Thanks. I somehow missed your older post. Didn't know about the exception for domestic. (Wow.) I wrongly assumed that pilsner was in the "lost" category these days.
     
  12. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    Ah, I see. More complicated than I thought. There are rules about naming a beer after or describing a beer referencing a style associated with a geographic location. But no rules concerning the fidelity of the beer with style itself. I start getting a headache when I think about beer labeling requirements. And the rules can also vary state to state.
     
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  13. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I remember enjoying slugger quite a bit, and yea I had no idea they had two label schemes @jmdrpi either. That is pretty neat on Sly Fox’s end.
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Some of the brands from The Alchemist.

    And if I could buy their canned products Hill Farmstead.

    Cheers!
     
  15. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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  16. Cstamp3084

    Cstamp3084 Pundit (902) May 3, 2020 Maryland
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    I visited alchemist and hill farmstead back in may. Every four pack from alchemist was 13 bucks and the "dark" was incredible wish I would have bought a case. The pilsner "light" I thought was decent but I would pay the extra for the schilling offerings. Hill Farmstead was a little disappointing there Mary pilsner was not on the same level as schillings german pilsners and the price was just as expensive. My girlfriend drank harlan ipa on draft while we were there and it was very good. I would like to get my hands on notch session pils for the upcoming tasting. I do have some pilsners from fox farm that I will probably get into for the tasting.
     
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, those beers are less expensive at the source. They cost more at my local beer retailers.

    Cheers!
     
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  18. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,786) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    Anybody else have any haul pics to share as part of their prep for pilsner tasting this weekend?

    Ive got a few more from a BIF with my West Coast beer bomber @snaotheus that Ive saved for this event.

    Gonna pick up a few Connecticut examples too, will see how many I can post and share with y'all!
     
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  19. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I was at a few localish breweries this weekend and picked up some beers for the tasting.

    Flounder Brewing (NJ) - Jack's Puffin Pils
    Human Robot Brewing (PA) - Hallertau Pils, Grungeist Pils, Czech 10°

    I know the later is labeled as a "Czech Style Pale Lager" but I think I agree with people in this other thread that trying to parse beers labeled that vs. Czech-style Pilsner seems to be somewhat arbitrary. The Human Robot Czech 10° is within the ABV range listed in the BA style guide for Bohemian/Czech Pilsner (and above the maximum ABV listed for Czech Pale Lager).
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  20. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I try to keep it simple. It should at least use Pilsner malts. Just like a Vienna Lager should use Vienna malts.

    Probably doesn't work in some cases, but ah well.
     
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