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stille nacht reserva 2010

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by thegoon55, Dec 30, 2012.

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  1. thegoon55

    thegoon55 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2012 Massachusetts

    I know these threads are annoying, but I see FT:ISO offers that are insane for stille nacht reserva 2010.... Has any of them got done? Would it really trade 1:1 for things like rare or CC?

    Cheers and thanks
     
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  2. thegoon55

    thegoon55 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2012 Massachusetts

    ...this is why I posted this. Though I don't see this trading for what people are asking, but on the odd chance it is...there's a bunch on insta-whalez in my backyard!
     
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  3. jodan

    jodan Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2008 California

    Goandpickitupformebro? ;-)
     
  4. thegoon55

    thegoon55 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2012 Massachusetts

    I would! Sadly they're $40 a bottle so I only got 2 one to drink now, and one to drink later..
     
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  5. AlexFields

    AlexFields Pooh-Bah (1,826) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    I know some people have traded these for stuff like King Henry or packages of less rare beers, other people have received offers for Cable Car, Rare, T20, etc. What deals were actually made, whether they were 1:1 or what, I don't know.

    I'd be surprised if I actually got an offer for a Ann or V004 or one of the other bottles I listed in my post, but given the really limited number of bottles around, it doesn't seem completely out of the question if someone wanted to collect 2-3 bottles of snr 10 in one deal.

    More likely I imagine the deals for the near future will look more like SNR for rare or DDG, or snr + something else for izzy or cable car or whatever.

    Then again I could be overestimating the deairabity of these bottles based on their connection to snr 2000 and their limited production. Either way I guess I'll find out based on the responses I get to my post.

    Also seems fairly certain that this will trade for a lot more in a few years than it will now, unless the bottles really start to decline or something.
     
  6. kscaldef

    kscaldef Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2010 Oregon

    I'm quite sure you'd have no problem finding people who would paypal you the money to buy more at that price and ship it to them.
     
  7. kscaldef

    kscaldef Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2010 Oregon

    If it's really true that only 360 bottles of this came stateside, I see no reason given the pedigree that it shouldn't trade for either of those, or fairly close. However, I have to say that given the number of people who have claimed they could "go buy a case of them right now" I'm questioning that 360 number a bit. My understanding is that Portland got 36 of those bottles, and they disappeared very quickly (and historically we don't go crazy for beers at that price point).
     
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  8. thegoon55

    thegoon55 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2012 Massachusetts

    South Carolina only got 30 bottles, it's just beer doesn't move as fast as other markets. I do believe the 360 bottles is accurate. Remember a case is only 6 bottles
     
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  9. AlexFields

    AlexFields Pooh-Bah (1,826) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    I believe western NC got two cases--one went to Bruisin Ales and of course sold out immediately, the other went to Thirsty Monk (beer bar, not bottle shop) which is where I got mine.
     
  10. xnicknj

    xnicknj Initiate (0) May 25, 2009 Pennsylvania

    i know this is the conditioned response around here lately but with only 4k total bottles and only ~400 making it to the US, this IS actually rare. as opposed to anything ever released by goose island, founders or other shelf wale producers (by no fault of their own).
     
  11. AlexFields

    AlexFields Pooh-Bah (1,826) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    Well first, I clearly stated I would trade multiple bottles of snr for the two beers you just named and also add other stuff, so pointing to their lower bottle counts isn't really fair. Second, I have some Upright and Jackie O's and Hardywood beers with bottle counts much lower than Ann or V004--does that mean I should laugh if I were offered V004 for an Upright beer? Finally, I'm not expecting to actually be offered one of those beers, and I basically said as much in my post. I put other beers that I am much more likely to get in my ISO, but why not include some crazy stuff that I probably won't get just in case there's someone out there willing to trade it for multiple bottles of snr? It's not like I said those deals SHOULD happen or that I believe they're likely or warranted.
     
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  12. xnicknj

    xnicknj Initiate (0) May 25, 2009 Pennsylvania

    This is my favorite part of the ISO forum these days.

    Some of the requests are definitely crazy, but I could see asking for limited 'Loons or other lambics reasonable. Plus, isn't it supposed to actually taste good? I keep forgetting about that side of the equation. :wink:
     
  13. xnicknj

    xnicknj Initiate (0) May 25, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I think you're missing the point here - Ann and V004 would be insanely difficult to land even if the bottle count was 3x what it was bc of the reputation of the breweries and beers themselves. Upright, Jackie O's and a ton of other breweries are churning out low bottle count limited releases, but that doesn't mean they're going to land extremely limited beers by De Dolle, Cantillon, HF, etc.
     
  14. AlexFields

    AlexFields Pooh-Bah (1,826) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    Yeah no I understand that, and I don't use bottle count as a gauge of trade value per se. But Mordor was pointing to the bottle count of those beers as though that were the reason the trade were off.

    Rightly or wrongly, Upright and Jackie O's don't have the reputation or pedigree that these other breweries have and so those bottles don't trade in the same league and I wouldn't ask for them to. But De Dolle DOES have a really solid reputation and the stille Nacht Reserva releases in particular do. Which is my point--the really relevant thing for trade value is how badly people want the beers, not technicalities about bottle count or bottle cost.

    How badly people want/will want the snr 10 is still kindof up in the air, but it's limited enough and has high enough expectations that I don't think it's unreasonable or laughable to test the waters in the way that I and I guess some other folks are doing.
     
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  15. stxSS07

    stxSS07 Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2010 Illinois

    Leverage it to the hilt. Reverse default lambic swap buy back.

    Etc.
     
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  16. huskermike12

    huskermike12 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2011 Vermont
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    The real problem is Etre had bottles up for about a day, so most people who REALLY wanted it went that route I'm guessing. I logged on to buy it then decided to pass because they basically had no limited Cantillon stuff to add to the order. Obviously other people did not.
     
  17. WassailWilly

    WassailWilly Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2007 New York

    It was 18 bucks a bottle back 2001 or so when I saw a full wooden case in Buffalo sitting there ...
    This year seen NADA
     
  18. kscaldef

    kscaldef Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2010 Oregon

    Etre had bottles up for 2-3 hours is more accurate, I believe. I have no idea how many total they sold, but I can't imagine it actually added that much more to the US supply.
     
  19. BAstoutsNsours

    BAstoutsNsours Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2012 Florida

    This is one tap right now at Independent Tampa. Just FYI
     
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  20. Anonymous1

    Anonymous1 Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2012 Illinois

    Lets be realistic here. When was the last time anyone threw up an ISO for the Stille Nacht Riserva 2000, 2005, or 2008 before the most recent release? I'd say its pretty certain that this one will be all but forgotten in the next few months until they do another release.

    Of course you have a vested interest in these trading high since you're shopping them on the trade forums right now.
     
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