Needed: List of Fake Craft Brews

i didn't think the requirement was to be owned by a big conglomerate, just shitty beers passing themselves off as craft

 

i just came up with a list of psuedo craft beers, the owners dont have anythign to do with it.

 

So are there cases of social injustice by Bud or Miller?

 

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1. Franziskaner Weissbier (Germany)
2. Franziskaner Hefe-Weissbier

• Franziskaner Hefe-Weissbier Alkoholfrei
• Franziskaner Hefe-Weissbier Dunkel
• Franziskaner Hefe-Weissbier Leicht
• Franziskaner Weissbier Kristallklar

This discovery brought a tear to my eye...... always good, not as good as
Weihenstephaner, but despite list, if offered any of the above, I am going to accept it without hesitation......

 

there are craft brewers passing shitty beers off as craft too. those will fail on their own by natural selection

 

Don't you think that's a little radical? How about a little boycotting or picketing first.

 

<Yawnnnnn> did I miss something?

 

Can you explain to me what these "some things" are?

 

I wouldn't say bad labor practices are the only pre-requisite to deciding whether or not you want to support a company. I have seen a few people here opting not to buy anything under the BMC umbrella due do its detrimental nature to the craft beer industry. But it's not as simple as not buying Bud Light or Miller Lite; these companies own and produce a lot of other beers that, while some can be considered good, people choose not to support.

Again, I don't want to speak for the OP as the intent wasn't clear, but to me the idea of "fake" is to say that it's owned by one of these conglomerates and to buy from them is to financially support their less-than-ideal cause.

 

How does this work exactly? People decide that they want to be dicks, and express this by not buying Goose Island beers? People don't have the right to choose which brewers they want to support with their hard earned dollars? Whom exactly are they being "dicks" to?

 

Easy there, buddy.

You're going to sit there and tell me people don't write off GI just because InBev acquired them, regardless of the product which stands on its own?

 

What is their "less-than-ideal-cause?" Making a profit selling a beer that people like well enough to buy?

 

I believe you're missing his point. Some people don't only side with quality. I'm astonished so many here can't fathom this idea.

 

Perhaps "dicks" wasn't the best word to use on my end. But what you're describing is what I think is referred to as "being a hater."

 

"Cause" wasn't the right word. Less-than-ideal tactics, perhaps? My point is, some people don't want to support huge conglomerates that muscle smaller companies out of contention. Just because it's the point of BMC to make as much money as they can doesn't mean one has to support it, regardless of quality.

 

Okay, fair enough. I interpreted the OP's "corporate swill" comment as being large brewers who are rebranding their product to appeal to so called craft enthusiasts.

 

Have to disagree. "Hating" on something is to dislike it because everyone else is hyping it. It's to be that guy who pops into a Zombie Dust or Heady Topper thread and says "meh." No one is saying GI doesn't make fine beers, which makes it so far from being a hater to opt out of buying their beers for the sake of upholding a personal value (i.e. not supporting AB-InBev).

Note: I make no such distinctions when I purchase; I purchase based on quality and interest in the style. But to begrudge someone for having a value beyond the quality of the product is sort of blowing my mind right now.

 

I believe that staying away from business that muscle smaller breweries off of tap lines and out of bottle shops is more important. I think there's a large portion of craft brewers that, even though they recognize you as their comptetion, still would like you to do well. I think that is a wonderful thing and what the craft community should be all about. Inbev, as far as I understand, does not support craft beer in such a way. They support craft as long as they are making money off of it, sure. However, they won't hesistate to find a way to keep a small up-start brewery from prospering. As such, I'd prefer not to support Inbev, regardless of the quality of their products.

 

I agree with a lot of what you said, and perhaps read into things earlier, incorrectly. But the beginning of this, I have to disagree with. Mainly because I am one of those who after acquiring a 4 pack of Heady, failed to see why it was sought after with such a ravenous desire. If I'm following you definition correctly, and I might not be, but I'm not allowed to dislike it even with my personal tastes, because it is widely known as a "good" beer? My own preference labels me as a hater, regardless of anything else?

 

I don't support a brewer because it makes money or doesn't make money. Of course if the brewer does not make money it will probably not stay in business long. I would be interested in hearing from a brewer - do you try to make as much money as you can while still maintaining a viable business? If its just about how big a brewer is and how much profit it makes, I don't understand. I would go with what I like (i.e. quality) everytime.