Needed: List of Fake Craft Brews

I wonder how many of these "anti-corporation" BA's are tap tap tapping away on their iphones posting.....

 

And Abinbev wins again.....

 

Same. It's freaking beer, not a damn political statement.

 

I agree that it is damn near impossible to live 100% off the grid. But that doesn't mean it's not worth it to try to limit ones' support of large corporations. The, "well you can't live entirely corporate free" line is a way to not have to think critically about the issue in my opinion.

 

If you're referring to Brookston's list, that dates from 2009 and AC Golden was just beginning at that time. The list was spurred on by the release of the Beer Wars documentary - notice the first "comment" is by filmmaker Anat Baron. It was supposed to be continually updated but apparently he dropped the idea.

 

Funny, it's the ignorance in this thread that is making me sick to my stomach.....

 

Apple uses child slave labor in China to build iphones. Can you list some things ABInbev does that are similar?

If there are BA's against ABInbev - but use Apple products - they are full of shit.

 

That's fine. I'd rather adhere to my personal tastes on my own terms. ;0)

Morality in "craft" beer BUSINESS? LOL

 

I would never say that ABinbev does things like allow child labor. Nevertheless, just because a company is not doing the worst thing in the world, doesn't mean they should have a blind eye turned towards their actions. Do you think a thief shouldn't be arrested because he didn't kill anyone? I don't.

Also, to your last line, I see what you are getting at, but I disagree. There are clear options to support breweries that don't participate in questionable business practices, while with purchasing computers the options are far more limited.

 

The fact that ABInBev/MillerCoors own maybe 2 or 3 labels that I can picture myself drinking has little to do with my purchasing. It just so happens that I don't like the stuff they make, so I won't buy them. Generally speaking, I will never try something out brewed by one of those two giants either. As a for instance, though, I like Franziskaner and if that is the best choice I wiill probably buy it. I wouldn't mind speaking, as a consumer, to ABInBev and letting them know that I like good beers, even theirs. Nonetheless, I also speak with my dollar that I will take every opportunity to find something else if there is any doubt that a non-macro choice could be better.

 

You are spinning things to suit your actions, and not standing up for what you believe. If you are firm anti-corporatism - you wouldn't use an Apple phone. You could easily buy a Korean made smartphone that doesn't use slave labor.

My real point is just to show how dumb this argument is, and what hypocrites people are here. This selective moral outrage is hilarious.

 

This isn't entirely true.
Apple disclosed that they discovered that several of their suppliers used child labor.
I am no Apple fan but it seems they are trying to minimize this problem.

 

They didn't disclose it, they went on PR damage control when exposed.

 

they stock them in the craft areas at retailers im sure plenty of people think they are craft.

 

No one said they are anti corporations.
We said that we don't agree with AB/InBevs practices and we won't purchase any of their products.

 

Yes, people here are saying they are anti-corporation. Please read posts earlier in this thread.

Fine you said it. High fives. You are just making me want to buy MORE of it though by grandstanding.

 

There is much to be said about the proces of learning of business practices, the time involved, and the response. For example, I bought an Apple lap top four years ago. I did not know of any negative business practices then. I becoming more aware of them now, although I have not researched it throughly myself yet. When I do, and if it seems like indeed their behavior does not fit with my value system, while I'd like to say I am going to through my lap top out the window and buy a new one, I don't have the money for that. This is a complex issue evilc and it is a constant struggle. I truly do try my very best to not support business that do things that I think to be wrong. I know I am far from perfect and I know I still have many adjustments to make. But this is a process that I believe there is a lot of value to. It shouldn't be simply overlooked or disregarded.

 

Ignorance of what? or to what?
If AB-InBev, MC, etc. want to try and buy out all the craft brewers they want, let them. If the craft brewer sells to them, then shame on them, no one is making them sell.

 

You are annoyed that he is making his buying decision based on a reason other than quality of the product so you are choosing to buy more of the beer based on something other than the quality of the product.

Just saying.

 

I should have clarified. I mean ignorance of hwo people think it's not worth it to even think critically about this issue. If you have thought about it and your above post is the conclusion you came to, great. I dsiagree with you, but I applaud you actually thinking about it. Seems to me like many are simply saying, "Who cares, the beer tastes good, move on" without putting much thought into it. That is disturbing to me.