Needed: List of Fake Craft Brews

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by GaryGreen, Jan 3, 2013.

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  1. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    ABInbev isn't harming anyone by aggressively promoting their product. It's called competition. Maximizing your shelf space is part of the game. Craft brewers need to play it too. ABInbev employees are just as valuable and deserving of their jobs as a craft brewery employee.

    I'd start with boycotting companies that harm people first.
     
  2. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    Yep - because of the selective morale outrage and flinging of labels like "morally bankrupt" on people who do not agree with him.

    I personally couldn't care less why he does what he does - it's when he feels the need to berate others for not following his way of life that I got involved.
     
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  3. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    There is no issue, hence nothing to think critically about. ABInbev is a business and does what business do - try to make money and I have no issues with them whatsoever.
     
  4. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    How much thought should someone put into their beer purchases? If you want to make a federal case out of it in your head while you ponder your beer purchase, be my guest. But if I like something, short of someone dying to make the product, I don't give a shit about much else, and I'm buying the goddamned product.
     
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  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Hmm... interesting. Not the case around here.

    Ballantine XXX Ale (which never left this market, of course) is typically stocked near the macros/pre-craft locals like Genesee and Yuengling/the malt liquors.

    Schlitz Gusto came and went, but when it was here I'd see it with the rest of Pabst "cheap beer" portfolio we get (PBR, Piels, Schaefer, Old Milw.)

    McSorley's is usually with the other Irish and faux Irish beers ( Guinness, Smithwicks for the former, Harp, Killians for the latter, etc).

    No Primo, of course.
     
  6. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    That's what so funny. The naive here thinking most brewers are in it for the "passion". While that is part of it - any and all of them have a price and would sell in a heartbeat for it. They are in business for the money too.
     
  7. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    That's fine. I do care about it and I do think about these things before I buy. We're just different. I am not saying everyone has to do as I do.
     
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  8. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Smaller breweries with private ownership employ more people per barrel of product than larger breweries and result in a more equitable distribution of earnings overall. That is indisputable.

    Driving wealth into the pockets of the already wealthy and driving down the potential for job growth does in fact do harm to people.
     
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  9. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    What are the chances that the larger craft brewers also do some underhanded dealings to get their product out. I'm sure they are not above it. its business. I don't care what InBev does, I don't buy their products, because the ones I like are still readily available to me.
     
  10. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    If ABInbev bought every brewery in the world - would you stop drinking beer?
     
  11. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    We are on a forum discussing beer, right?
    It seems we have a little off topic...maybe?
     
  12. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I agree completely. Goose Island is the perfect example. It took two to tango, inbev made the offer but GI accepted. I get that. I get that businesses, even the small town breweries are out to make money for themselves as well. That's fine. I just think they should have a fair shot at making said money and that inbev is using their muscle to not allow that. Some may say, "hey that's business" which is the prevailing attitude on these boards and in capitalism in general, but I am not going to subscribe to that line of thinking.
     
  13. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    I'm a capitalist and see nothing wrong with wealth acquisition. Guess we're different.
     
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  14. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Nope! I homebrew some solid stuff!
     
  15. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I disagree and truly hope this thread doesn't get locked down. I think the question of supporting products made by breweries acquired by BMC is a very relative topic that all of us, on both sides of the issue, have much to learn in.
     
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  16. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    The position "Drink what tastes great-Period." is morally bankrupt.
    Not because they disagree with me, but because they are not acknowledging that there is a moral component ot every purchase.
    If the Taliban releases a BBA Stout that is phenomonal are you going to purchase it?
     
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  17. crossovert

    crossovert Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    Well that isn't the case everywhere.
     
  18. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    Probably.
     
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  19. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    Yes. Especially if they use PvW 23 barrels.

    Oh - and there is no moral component to a beer purchase.
     
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  20. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    Gotta love BA.

    Aggressive marketing = Taliban.
     
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