Need some guidance/advice

Your grounded. Discussing thread moderation is against the rules.

 

Good question. Lets see. Da da da da...da da da (Jeapordy song). I'm interested in what would or would not be censored or deleted before proceeding. Guidelines please.

 

How about this: "We are here because we love authentic craft beer and nothing will change that. The Big Guys are imitating craft beers with offerings that essentially "mimic" craft beer. While it is undeniably a compliment and a validation of craft beer by these astute businessmen, is the world of beer better or worse for the Big Guys doing this? Does the dilution of the idea of craft beer cause more harm than the mass marketing and mass availability of beers with flavor, beers that, while pedestrian to us, may essentially be "gateway" beers to the world of craft beer for a whole universe of people who might otherwise never have tried it? Discuss. Nicely."

 

I see your reasons for searching for, hmm what would you call it, guidelines, parameters? Maybe not mentioning specific companies by name...well then we'll all get playful with acronyms and whatnot. And those that want to spew will find a way. So, basically....I got nothing. Sorry.

 

I was a part of that locked thread and at the risk of being deleted . . . to clarify, I do not necessarily support InBev, I support a free market.

 

Even if you follow the rules, some BA is likely to report you and consequently you will get a do-not-reply email from Todd re: Inappropriate Content and thread will be locked/deleted.

 

I can agree with the idea that the beers made by the macro companies will hopefully lead into people searching for more 'different' beer. I tend to see the people that drink these 'craft' offerings from the macro companies already consider themselves to be a 'craft' person. My roommate drinks mostly BL, and when he discovered some of the 'craft' options, he said "I'm really beginning to like craft beer, I loved that ____ pumpkin beer, and that ____ wheat beer. He goes into my beer fridge occasionally, or I'll pour him something fairly easy to drink like a SNPA, or similar, and he'll say "too hoppy" or the like. So as much as I sincerely hope that these 'craft' options from macros will be a 'gateway' beer for most, I have my doubts...

 

If you follow the rules but some BA reports you, Todd ignores the report.

 

I want to believe that...really I do. No snark or sarcasm.
But I can't.

 

People can do their own research. If some jackhole decides to blacklist a brewery that truly is craft, and other BAs buy into it, it does a disservice to the community. Let people use the magic of the internet to get informed and make their own choices.

 

It's probably just a never ending debate that will go on forever.

I also think that it is only among "beer geeks" here that we see this debate. I don't think it exists in the mainstream. I'm going to my main distributor now and see goose island reserves in more abundance than I have ever seen them. bcbs, bcbcs, etc. I bring up the fact that inbev bought them out and they give me a look like why does that fucking matter?

I'm kind of on the fence in terms of the debate but I'm sure this is common here. I don't purchase most of the in-bev products. Not to say that I'm so much of a beer snob that I won't knock back a few bmc/ab at a bbq or party. However, I do enjoy goose island beer and especially their reserves. So while I'll still probably buy a 4 pack of bcbs or a bomber or two of the others, 95% of the rest of my dollars go toward actual craft breweries. And I don't spend lightly.

 

I have seen a number of threads quickly get off topic. It's like the "telephone game" you play when you're little: make a statement, by the time it goes around the room it's completely different. i don't know that there is much you can do to change human nature.

 

Hey, I come from the generation where Lowenbrau and Moosehead were some of the "intros" to a new world of brewing. Oh, and Corona came in a really decrepit & shady cardboard 20pk case. But alas, many of us saught out new horizons and found gems like SNPA, Samuel Smith's, Anchor, and yes even Pete's...and I wish Grant's Perfect Porter was still around.

 

Yet we still try to give an even chance to a good "beer" regardless of who brewed it, yet also very wary of the MACRO's and their attempts, usuually futile, at cashing in or nosing in on the micro--- can we still say Revolution?

 

I think the problem is that the "anti AB InBev" conversations never amount to anything... and I mean anything at all. It's never happened.

There's nothing inherently problematic about discussing it, but we live and learn... it's not even worth bringing up at this point.

 

yamar, you speak wisdom beyond your years...How old are you anyways?

 

Old enough to party.

 

Politics, religion and big beer. Shhhhhhhhh...........