Let's Give Lagers Some Love (2024)

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  1. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I confess I have no idea what a "classic lager" is supposed to taste like. I assume it's probably the brewer's own interpretation of what constitutes classic aroma, flavor and body chatacteristics? Without more information on the can, I'm not sure this is a beer I would buy. Might be really, really good, but without knowing what's in the can, I probably wouldn't take a chance on it.
     
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  2. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Yes, it could be an AAL :wink::stuck_out_tongue:
     
  3. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I see AAL as a starter beer. It's what most of us started with and drank by the gallon as kids. We eventually moved on to craft for ABV, flavor, and variety. I've left AAL behind, and usually only have one to review. I'll have other more flavorful lagers though.
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Beer that tastes like beer! :beer:

    Cheers!
     
  5. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Which would be annoying if you're not a fan of AALs, or if you obtained a beer that tastes very much like BMC stuff, but was priced two or three times higher than a sixer of BMC.

    Even if you're a fan of AALs, I assume you probably wouldn't be very happy paying for a craft version that tastes very similar to bmc, but is priced two or three times higher. And of course being cynical, I expect that's exactly the reason certain craft breweries label their AAL facsimiles names like "classic lager," "American lager," just plain "lager," and so on.
     
  6. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    To the mass-market consumer, you're correct. To us craft beer lovers, an AAL tastes like a light-flavored craft lager.
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Victory makes a beer they brand as "Classic Lager". I discussed this beer in a past NBW thread:

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    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/new-beer-sunday-week-790.637518/#post-6865033

    "Overall:

    This beer is excellent. I really enjoyed the balance of bready Pilsner Malt and herbal/spicy hop flavors. This beer is indeed consistent with the Victory Brewing ‘claim’ of an Easy Drinkin' Lager."

    Victory stopped canning this beer a few years ago. In the past I have purchased many 15 packs of this beer:

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    Cheers!

    @jonphisher
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And some AAL beers are quite tasty!

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    "Overall:

    Within the context of an AAL beer this beer is a joy to drink. The highlights are the hop aroma and nice head retention. If you are looking for a nice thirst-quenching beer in these ‘Dog Days of Summer’ this is a good choice, a great lawnmower beer."

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/commun...nct-lager-july-4-7.677763/page-4#post-8010400

    Cheers to tasty beers!!:beers:
     
  9. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Jack, did you ever find out what the beer style was? Was it an adjunct lager or was it all malt (would guess the latter, knowing Victory).

    Any idea why Victory stopped canning it? The reason I ask, is that as near as I can tell, craft version AALs out here do not appear to be selling all that well. The reason appears to be two fold. Many craft consumers are simply not overly fond of AALs and have no interest in buying them just because they're made by a craft brewery (I fall into this category), and then there are AAL consumers who drink a lot of AALs, but are unacustomed to paying craft beer prices for their beer style of choice.
     
  10. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,068) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    That’s an ale though isn’t it?
     
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It is produced using lager yeast.

    Cheers to lagers!!:beers:
     
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  12. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Um... speak for yourself. All of the craft lagers I drink have different flavor characters than the typical AAL.
     
  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    From the Victory website:
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    So, is "East Drinkin' Lager" an approved BA beer style!?! :wink:
    It is all malt, specifically Pilsner Malt.
    I don't have an 'answer' as to why they stopped canning this brand. For further discussion there are a lot of craft brewed lager brands in SEPA (as you likely already know?). Maybe a situation of not enough shelf space for this particular brand?

    On a somewhat related note? I visited my local Retail Beer Distributor recently (a week ago?) and there was a new Philly area craft brewery there giving out samples: Broad Street Brewing. I chatted with the young lady hosting the table and I am a bit ashamed to admit I told her: Where is the brewery located? She answered Bristol and then my brain cells worked and I responded: Oh yeah, I learned about you from watching an episode of What's Brewing on TV. There are just so many craft breweries (lots of newer ones) that I have difficulty keeping track. :grimacing: I then asked her how well their beers were selling. She responded that the co-owners of the brewery were previously in the commercial HVAC business and consequently had a lot of connections with local businesses (e.g., restaurants) and thereby they have a robust draft business. I feel for breweries that recently opened up since there is just so much (too much?) local competition. And I am sure that 'legacy' craft breweries (e.g., Victory, Troegs, Sly Fox, etc.) are facing challenges due to ever increasing competition. Oh well!?! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Cheers!
     
  14. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Yeah, I worded that badly. What I was trying to to say is that a macro-produced AAL tastes like beer-flavored water compared to a craft brewery AAL which usually has some good flavor. (It's still not my favorite style.)
     
  15. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I recently reread a novel by a favorite author. His main character described "American beer" in prose that I find very elegant rather than harsh and demeaning, "Fortified mineral water." :wink:

    Full disclosure -- the story took place in the late 1940s, very pre-craft brewing in the U.S., so it's not a case of not knowing beer had changed here.
     
  16. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,068) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Here’s a nice lager. Cheers!!
     
  17. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Not your Grandpa's beer? :grin:
     
  18. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Notch - The Standard
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  19. MikeBinLA

    MikeBinLA Zealot (647) Oct 19, 2024 California

    Clear the air before the post.

    Malt liquor is a strong lager or ale in which sugar, corn or other adjuncts are added to the malted barley to boost the total amount of fermentable sugars in the wort. This increases the final alcohol concentration without creating a heavier or sweeter taste.

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  20. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,999) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    Big Spill Pils from Wren House Brewing in Phoenix

    Spritzy and frothy on the tongue. Crisp, light bodied, and a delightful mouthfeel. Aroma of clean straw with hints of resin. Taste is bready with a hint of rye crackers. Herbal hops are in the background but emerge for a modest bitter atertaste. Overall this is one of the better Pilsners I"ve had lately. That touch of malty sweetness with the slushy light mouthfeel is quite delightful.

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