Shangy's hopslam thread

I am very glad to hear that you now (today?) have daily retail code checks. It would have been ‘better’ that this occurred in the past but I applaud steps in this direction.

I truly want to thank Nima for taking the time to make a post and informing us of his initiatives. I can understand him making a statement of “We are growing tired of some of the false posts on this site.” Hopefully he also understands that not all of the points are “false”.

Cheers!

 

All well explained and appreciated greatly. Will never however understand the enforcement of a "1 case per car" limit over that of a "1 case per person" limit. No difference to amount of hopslam left in store between I car of 4 buyers or 4 cars with lone occupant each driving themselves. Much lower gas consumption plus more available parking spaces. Oh well, what does it matter now? I have my case of Hopslam!

 

Hey look, a huge bus just showed up with 130 passengers. They all want Hopslam. What should we do?

 

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Sell it to them. Like I said, I have my case! Seriously though, you do per-car instead of per-person to stave off the TransBridge Hop Express party bus tours to Emmaus, PA?!

 

To: Nitlionktl----The truth is we do (1) case per car so we can get as many consumers as possible to try this incredible beer. Further, we do NOT want other retailers "sneaking in" to buy cases (5 people in one car = 5 cases) when they already received their allotment. But thank you for the comments and more importantly your patronage.

 

It's either drive up to Shany's and get a case of hopslam or buy Flyers tickets next weekend. Tough decision!

Anyone in the Exton/Phoenixville area that would possibly want to split a case? Its tough paying $80 (not 100% sure the actual price but it should be around this) for a case of beer but I can do $40 for half.

 

Price is $74.19 after tax. I saw probably like 10 cases in people's hands or go out the door while I was in there for about 5 minutes. That was about 3:15.

 

Just got back.the staff did a great job and were very friendly. Got my case of Hopslam and nugget nectar. But...I saw about 10 cases being sold in the 10 minutes I was there

 

Nima, thanks for the post. Glad to hear about "discount/clearance section" - the last case I got of Port Brewery Mongo probably should have been in that section (I would have gotten it anyway, all of that yeast sediment gives a great "cask" taste).

FYI for all: the case of Hopslam I got at Shangy's is dated 1/23/2013. Tastes VERY fresh. A bit more of an alcohol note than I remember. For 2-Hearted people, the cases are dated 12/26/2012.

 

That's funny, since the case I got there last year was a booze bomb and this was way better IMO.

 

Easy, fast, fresh. Worth the drive.

 

Hey John, haven't seen you in a while. Actually I haven't been on this site is quite some time. Nima told me yesterday about the post so I was bored this morning so I logged in. Actually it has been so long, I had to sign up again.

Good questions and maybe I can add some light to Nima's thinking. Yoiur carpool issue, and Nima's one case per car policy.

Suppose I am a 24 year old hopslam fan, and need to have more than a case. I ask my parents and my grandmother to get in a car with me so they can each buy a case. Now none of the three could even spell hopslam. Why would Nima care, well maybe one of his weekly customers happens to be traveling the first couple of days Hopslam is released. He arrives four days after Nima puts it on the floor and it is sold out. Why because a customer who may or may not be a regular, buys four cases. None left for the guy who keeps Nima open 52 weeks a year. Consequently, a bar owner who buys 300 dollars a week from Nima is alloted one case, but sends his wait staff up to Shangys and buys four additional cases to sell in his bar, thereby reducing the inventory for the Shangy walk up customer or account that supports Nima to a tune of 2000 dollars a week.

As for the bar owners and bottle shops complaining to you abuot their alotment, I think Nima painstakingly address that in his post. Often people who don't like the answer, think the question hasn't been addressed. My wife and kids from time to time have this fault. My answer doesn't change to the question because someone doesn't like it, I suspect Nima's won't either.

As far as pricing policy. Nima doesn't need to disclose his pricing policy to anyone. This isn't Russia or China. although the last four or five years it seems we are moving closer to it. I haven't gotten my hopslam yet, so I don't know what the price is. If Nima is selling it at a demonstrably higher price than what Westy's is selling it to their on and off premise accounts, than maybe you have a argument. And I don't know if he is. However if that is between Shangys and Bells, and if we don't like the price, we aren't require to buy it. It isn't healthcare.

As an aside, Flying Dog Galaxy is terrific. And just curious John, are you hopslam posts cut and pasted from years before or am I getting old and having memory lapses. Hope to see you this week, check out our website to see when we are tapping it. Just kidding

Mike

 

John,
If you read my earlier post(s) they actually cover most of your questions. 1,100 cases for 3,000 accounts. Allotments based on Bell's sales throughout the year by the individual accounts. Sell more Bell's beer, get more alloted Bell's brands. This is not a new concept, just ask Sam @ Dogfish. Reward and thank those whom support your brands. The next time a retailer friend of yours questions Shangy's allotted brand practices, just ask...Do you support the brewey? Is there a good selection of said brewery in your store? If you do the minimum to support a brewery, you receive the minimum in allotted brands.

Regarding our pricing and margins:
-Shangy's wholesale is in line or lower in pricing to accounts for its wholesale brands compared to other in-state or out of state wholesalers.

-Shangy's retail pricing is the lowest in the state if not the country. We work off much lower margins because of our sheer volume. Whether you drink Mass brands (ABI, Miller-Coors), Rochefort 10, or Lost Abbey Angels Share, we offer the lowest prices everyday, on any brand.

 

John,
We do NOT sell beer to accounts at our retail prices. We do however price all beer (both Shangy and other wholesaler brands) at very low margins. Why? Because we want to. We have a hard time understanding why some retailers work off 10% G.P. on mass brands ( Sam Adams, Corona, BMC, and Long Trail), but 30-50% on truly craft brands.

 

Hi, any left by now? I'm 75 miles away...
THX!

 

Bullshit on the 1 case per car. Why. I case per person but per car. Do you really take plate numbers?

 

Nima,

Hopefully you will entertain follow-up questions concerning the management of ‘old’ beer. You made mention in your post that you “implemented daily retail code checks”. I can understand how this can be done for cases of beer that are dated (either a brewed on date or best by date). For the instance in which the brewery has a brewed on date, when do you make a decision that the beer is too old and then place it on the discount rack?

A number of breweries do not date their beers. Do you have information on your invoices (or other paperwork) that contains a date for those cases of beer? If so, how does your daily retail code check work for those beers!

Cheers!

Jack

 

Shangy's wholesaler decides Shangy's retailer is most deserving of the highest share. Conflict of interest, self-fulling prophesy, or both...you decide. Maybe it's legit though, and we just never realized that Emmaus, PA is such a bustling metropolis of craft beer lovers.