Guinness Foreign Extra Stout

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  1. SummitSeries72

    SummitSeries72 Zealot (540) Mar 17, 2011 New Jersey

    My local beer store recently brought in Guinness Foreign Extra Stout. I have never been a "Guinness guy" like some can be. There always seems to be a devoted Guinness drinker in every beer crowd. But when I saw Guinness Foreign Extra Stout, a beer very hard to come by, I was intrigued. Beer Advocate rates it very highly (BA 91, the brethren 96). High right? So I had to buy some and try it for myself.

    First, let me say that I like it. It's a good beer. 7.5% ABV contributes to a nice warming feeling. The alcohol is not at all evident. It's got nice fruity notes. Good malt presence. Nice on the nose. BUT (you knew there was a "but") I was still a little disappointed. For several reasons. There was way too much of a head on this beer, and it doesn't seem to dissipate. It seems like you're drinking mostly head. Second, there is absolutely no carbonation to speak of. Third, I detected no hop presence to counterbalance the malt sweetness. To me, this beer almost tastes more like a Doppel Bock than it does a stout. Is this typical of Irish stouts?

    Again, don't get me wrong; I liked the beer. But I must confess that I was expecting a lot more from this highly rated beer. Anybody else feel this way? Or disagree?
     
  2. mintjellie

    mintjellie Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2005 Canada (ON)

    It's not an Irish Dry Stout, it's a Foreign Export Stout. I haven't had many, but the ones I've had have tended more towards the sweet and malty side of things. For comparison, easy to come by beers in this style include Lion Stout (AKA Sinha) from Sri Lanka, Dragon Stout (extremely sweet) from Jamaica, and Royal Extra Stout from Trinidad. These are traditional drinks in the places they come from.
     
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  3. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    The yeast signature is fantastic, all dates and figs, as is the balance between the roasted grains and residual sugars- the hops are definitely incidental, but they are just there to make sure the rest of it works. I really like its personality- it's got some horsepower to it, but isn't all in your face about it. And the more you have, the more those fruits come to the fore.

    Just have a few more over the next few days if you have them, and maybe it'll grow on you.
     
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  4. diesel59

    diesel59 Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2012 New York

    I like it just the way it is.............. but I'll drink anything...........
     
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  5. Derranged

    Derranged Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 New York

    I like it.

    It doesn't pair well at all with Sheppard's Pie though. I tried.
     
  6. Jacurdy60

    Jacurdy60 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2013 Massachusetts

    Foreign extra is fantastic. Its dark, but drinkable and crisp. I feel like I could drink 12 of them in a sitting.
     
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  7. SummitSeries72

    SummitSeries72 Zealot (540) Mar 17, 2011 New Jersey

    I do like it; I'm not saying that I don't. But it was a tad disappointing as I was expecting more. I love American Craft stouts. This beer left me wanting ... a little.
     
  8. Ohsaycanyoubeer

    Ohsaycanyoubeer Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2012 Colorado

    I love foreign stouts. I think they are fantastic and wish more breweries would experiment with them. Left Hand made one a while ago as part of their "Fade to Black" series that I thought was wonderful.
     
  9. SummitSeries72

    SummitSeries72 Zealot (540) Mar 17, 2011 New Jersey

    Yeah, I can see your point. A little too sweet and malty from my perspective. Not that that makes it a bad beer. I guess I just prefer traditional stouts. I was really excited to try this beer after seeing how highly it was rated. Given that context, it was a letdown of sorts.
     
  10. kingofhop

    kingofhop Initiate (0) May 9, 2010 Oklahoma
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    I like it alright. Still prefer Extra Stout. You can keep Draught.
     
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  11. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    That's cool- I definitely got where you were going with the first post. I was just pointing out that sometimes over time beers (or anything else, really) can go from being something that you like and appreciate to something that you totally crave- and that's what I was getting at by saying 'grow on you'. It happens quite a bit with me.
     
  12. SummitSeries72

    SummitSeries72 Zealot (540) Mar 17, 2011 New Jersey

    Gotcha. I'll keep an open mind. I've got six more in tow. But, at this point, I'd be surprised if I develop a craving for it. That has happened with me too though.
     
  13. mintjellie

    mintjellie Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2005 Canada (ON)

    Guinness FES is a traditional stout. Far more traditional than any American Double. FES was actually brewed long before Guinness Extra or Guinness Draught.
     
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  14. JohnQVD

    JohnQVD Pundit (875) Jan 23, 2011 New York

    I prefer cider with Shepherd's Pie, myself, though I like stouts with beef stew.
     
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  15. mintjellie

    mintjellie Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2005 Canada (ON)

    Maybe it would pair better if you used it as the liquid base for your gravy? Substitute it in for a portion of the beef stock in your recipe. I've done this with dry stout, and also with a smoked impy. Should work fine.

     
  16. BladeRunner

    BladeRunner Zealot (521) Apr 4, 2007 Arizona

    Good beer for sure, but I think it's a little overpriced.
     
  17. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    I can only drink this beer after I have a buzz, otherwise I find it very offensive.
     
  18. JohnQVD

    JohnQVD Pundit (875) Jan 23, 2011 New York

    I usually do this with my stews, but I made shepherd's pie for the first time last week. I used to get it at a British pub in Miami, but since I moved, I'm learning to make my own. I'll give that a try next time and see how it works. Probably as well as the stew, I'm guessing.
     
  19. BeerSingh

    BeerSingh Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2009 India

    The beer is fantastic, and pairs well with a bourbon - before or after
     
  20. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    You have a good point there- this beer should most properly be evaluated against others of its type. IMO- none of those, although good in their own right, can hold a candle to Guinness Foreign Extra. There is a cloying element in all of those that will definitely show in direct comparisson over many glasses, while Guinness just gets better with each successive one. For a domestic version I do like Schlafly's take on the style better than Lion, Dragon or Royal: but even that one doesn't compare to Guinness where the rubber meets the road.
     
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