Weissbier. Does anything else compare?

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  1. iseethewhitewhale

    iseethewhitewhale Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2013

    Essentially the Missus and I have began to explore the variety of Weissbeir available to us in Australia. Our latest tastes include Franziskaner and Weihenstephaner varients, I was wondering from this avenue of tasting- what would be the next stage of tasting? Any ideas mates?
     
  2. colty42

    colty42 Devotee (349) Nov 14, 2011 District of Columbia

    Maybe try some of the American wheat beers (Pyramid, Widmer) and see if you enjoy those. I don't personally, I prefer the German/German-style. You can also try the different types of wheat beers: Kristall Weizen (a filtered hefeweizen); Dunkelweizen (a darker hefeweizen); Weizenbocks (hefeweizens brewed to dopplebock strength). Some of my favorites have been Tucher Kristall Weizen, Sam Adams Dunkelweizen, and Aventinus Wheat-Dopplebock.

    Oh, and I almost forgot to include the Belgian variety, called witbiers. Some of the more popular ones include Hoegaarden or Blue Moon. My favorite witbier hands down is St Bernardus White.

    Hope this helps. Happy tasting!
     
  3. lookrider

    lookrider Savant (1,152) Apr 22, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Try Sierra Nevada Kellerweis - it's a great American hefe
     
  4. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,274) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I started on wheat beers, both american and german, and jumped to witbiers and saisons. Moved through the belgians prettty quickly and started in on the english ales. Now I'm back to american ales, currently on an american pale kick. I would check out some of the witbiers, st b's white is nice, and maybe check out a few saisons as well. I'm not too sure what makes its way down under, but anything from fantome usually. Exemplifies the style.
     
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  5. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,848) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Witbiers, and St Bernardus in particular, are a great place to start branching out. Then maybe on to Belgian Pale Ales.

    I also like the dunkelweizen suggestion- Hacker-Pschorr makes a really good one.
     
  6. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,072) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    I don't know what's available in Australia but Belgian witbiers and saisons are probably the natural progression. Certainly different but has a lot of the same qualities. There's just something about Belgian yeast.. so good.
     
  7. SummitSeries72

    SummitSeries72 Zealot (516) Mar 17, 2011 New Jersey

    I completely agree. It is easily the best American hefe.
     
  8. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    Kristallweizen ~filtered hefe, way better than, that sounds (Weihenstephaner Kristall Weissbier,…), Gose ~ basically a hefe with lactic acid & salt (Bayerischer Bahnhof Original Leipziger Gose,…), Witbeer (St. Bernardus Wit, Struise Wit,…), saisons (Dupont, Dormaal Wit Goud,…), afterwards get a Schneider Aventius.

    I tried getting stuff that you might get hold of @ Australia but I have no idea what is available over there – cheers & enjoy
     
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  9. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,029) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    A lot of people suggesting witbier, which I've always seen as beer for people who don't like the flavour of beer. I certainly wouldn't call it a progression from wiezenbier but everyone has a different beer journey. First, stick with wiezenbier and try Schneider & Son's Aventinus Tap 6. It's dark and tastes of purple fruits, and it's insanely, insanely good. Then move on to it's crazy Eisbock counterpart, which is one of a kind. Not recommended in 40°C though. Otherwise with your newfound taste for yeast why not move onto Belgian pales and work upwards from there.
     
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  10. Momar42

    Momar42 Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2010 Maryland

    Perhaps the most easily accessible but Live Oak Heffeweizen from Austin, TX has it beat for best USA Heffeweizen.
     
  11. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,092) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    Stick to Germans. Avoid the "American Wheat" style in which the flavors are intentionally taken out.
     
  12. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    Triples.
    Like a weiss on steroids if done right!

    Cheers!
     
  13. iseethewhitewhale

    iseethewhitewhale Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2013

    Lovely, thanks mates. Im enjoying another drop of Weihenstepaner Hefe Dunkel at the mo, very keen to see if i can source some of these American weiss beirs even if they dont quite stack up to the barvarian equivalents i'm still interested to try them. Cheers colty42, SFACRKnight for the ideas, and thank you to the rest who informed :slight_smile: look forward to sourcing and sampling!!
     
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  14. gcamparone

    gcamparone Pooh-Bah (2,057) Dec 6, 2011 Rhode Island
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    If you haven't already, try Allagash White, it's one of my favorite american wheatbeers
     
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  15. chinabeergeek

    chinabeergeek Pooh-Bah (1,837) Aug 10, 2007 Massachusetts
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    it's actually a good american attempt at a classic belgian witbier. not really an american wheat at all.

    down there in Oz, redback is a domestic kristalweizen that should be readily available. but you're probably like me, and much prefer the unfiltered bavarian originals.
     
  16. BeerSingh

    BeerSingh Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2009 India

    Get V.I.T.U.S >
     
  17. TheSixthRing

    TheSixthRing Grand Pooh-Bah (3,195) Sep 24, 2008 California
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    I love dunkels, but I'm not sure I've ever seen the Hacker-Pschorr available in my area. I'd love to try it!
     
  18. kingofhop

    kingofhop Initiate (0) May 9, 2010 Oklahoma
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    Banana/clove flavors ain't for me. I'll take an American wheat anyday.
     
  19. TheSixthRing

    TheSixthRing Grand Pooh-Bah (3,195) Sep 24, 2008 California
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    Yeah, not a lot of Americanized Hefe beers are all that great, to be honest. Europe's still got us beat in that style, IMO. As others have said, the Sierra Nevada Kellerweiss is probably the best example of the style in the States. Also, I'm fond of the Firestone-Walker Solace, which is a Hefe/Saison hybrd available around April-September.
     
  20. bylerteck

    bylerteck Grand Pooh-Bah (3,143) May 17, 2009 Canada (ON)
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    Not a whole hell of a lot of American stuff makes its way to Oz. In terms of Australian examples of the style, check out Moo Brew Wheat/Hefe depending on what they're calling it these days, Chevalier Hefe and Hefe Dunk from Bridge Road. 4 Pines and Bridge Road also do a Hefe. Also, try to find Burleigh Hefe as it won best Hefe at the World Beer Cup or some awards thingy of equal significance. Most German variants like Franziskaner, Erdinger, Weihenstephaner, etc. should be available at Danno's.

    Good luck!
     
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