Under appreciated/under produced beer styles

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  1. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    English brown mild - that's a new style for me. What's it like?
     
  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    You can use Reverse Osmosis water as the base water, and add the needed minerals to brew either a Czech Pils (just a little CaCl2) or a German pils (CaCl2, CaSO4 and a little Epsom salt). There are quite a few US breweries that use RO water and adjust.
     
  3. LieutenantDan

    LieutenantDan Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2012 Texas

    MORE SOURS!!! MORE SOURS!!!
     
  4. TheSSG

    TheSSG Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2008 Illinois

    Oh, I know what you mean.
    In Arizona, I got SHIT from Wisconsin.
    Keep an eye out, Lakefront has been sending out their seasonals all over!
    Their "Big Easy" Maibock, their bock, their Oktoberfest, and their Pumpkin lager are better candidates to represent the awesomeness of Wisconsin lagers!
     
  5. TheSSG

    TheSSG Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2008 Illinois

    Well, the daily line-up seems to be okay sans Kirby, but a LOT of the new types they've been launching seem confused and silly. Kirby kept them on point; make German-style lagers that make the Germans jealous.
    When they start trying to move away from that, it's been less-than-exciting...to be honest... :/

    The Big Eddy guy sounds great, so long as they keep their hands off those lagers!
     
  6. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    your right but doing all of this adds to the cost of making the beer and I don't care how good science is it can never match the perfect natural water.
     
  7. RochefortChris

    RochefortChris Grand Pooh-Bah (3,271) Oct 2, 2012 North Carolina
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    Schwartzbier, eisbocks, sahti and Irish reds.
     
  8. Loganyoung

    Loganyoung Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2011 Georgia

    More chili beers! And I want some with some damn heat for a change.
     
  9. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I'm sure there are a few out there- but by and large these guys need to pick up their game on that front. Too bad I don't get Central Waters by me- I'd love to give that one a shot.
     
  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I agree with the first part. Natural water is natural but not perfect for brewing all styles of beer. Pilsen is low in minerals, but they do an expensive tripple decoction to help the malt convert, more Calcium would help that. In Munich they have alkaline water suited for Dunkel, and they adjust to make Hellles and Pilsner.
     
  11. stakem

    stakem Grand Pooh-Bah (4,070) Feb 20, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I am surprised by the amount of shout outs to berliner weisse in this thread. 2-3 years I would 100% stand behind that statement since there was only between 60 and 90 listed examples in the database. Today we are up to almost 200 active listings which does not include the retired and ones not yet rated. I think its safe to say that berliners are really starting to catch on the past 2 years with the increased interest in sour/wilds across the board. Up until last year it was my quest to try every berliner I possibly could. Now it seems that as soon as I acquire a new one, 3 more pop up that ive never heard of.

    Sure its not the most popular style but off the top of my head, at least 5 breweries come to mind that have become popular in part because of brewing a berliner that people went bonkers over. It seems like Floridas whole craft scene is exploding (at least partially?) because the style fits perfectly in their climate. Shit now they even have a yearly festival dedicated to the style.
     
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  12. Thevanpelt

    Thevanpelt Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2012 Sweden

    I would like to see more Lichtenhainer, Gose and Berline Weisse's! But I think we're seeing a shift for these styles with Westbrook, Night Shift, Funky Buddha, Jopen, Freigeist etc.
     
  13. Ricelikesbeer

    Ricelikesbeer Maven (1,433) Nov 29, 2006 Colorado
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    I'll put a nod in for Weizenbock. You get alcohol, spice, lots of malt, and yeast complexity all at once. A great example is pure heaven.... but there aren't that many great examples out there, especially American versions.
     
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  14. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Jopen brewed a Gratzer, not a Lichtenhainer, Gose or Berliner Weisse.
     
  15. Thads324

    Thads324 Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2010 Connecticut

    Low abv, sessionable brown ale made with hard water. Think a much better tasting, lighter bodied newcastle
     
  16. klaybie

    klaybie Zealot (633) Nov 15, 2009 Illinois

    Looks like a few people beat me to it but Koelsch and ESB are two styles I would like to see more of (really more imports of them as American breweries can't quite seem to get them).

    Both excellent styles that deserve more respect.
     
  17. keithmurray

    keithmurray Pooh-Bah (2,967) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut
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    Mother fuckin' Scotch ales/Wee heavys
    English dark milds
     
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  18. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    And who brews this beer? I've never come across a beer called that in Britain.
     
  19. Thads324

    Thads324 Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2010 Connecticut

    English dark mild, same difference
     
  20. Thevanpelt

    Thevanpelt Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2012 Sweden

    Oh, my bad. I thought that they had brewed Son of a Batch with MoM witch is a Dark Gose.
     
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