What's a nice way to tell a local craft bar they need to step up their game?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by leedorham, May 21, 2013.

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  1. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Here's the premise: A place opens up a few years back and has, at the time, one of the most impressive tap lists in town. Fast forward a few years and that place has been surpassed by a half dozen new and/or improved establishments.

    I pop in the other day for the first time in a while and get the whole 'long time no see.' I just laughed it off and ordered a beer but, truth is, it's because they just aren't the place to go any more. They haven't added any handles, they don't seem to be first to get the new releases, and they seem to be switching out their handles much less frequently and opting to stick with several regular offerings.

    What's a non-douchey way to tell a bar owner they need to step it up to keep your business?
     
  2. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    "Please step up your game."

    Just don't go there. If they don't care now, I can't see you saying something changing that.
     
  3. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    Just ask, "Hey have you ever thought about getting X beer, as it is a very highly rated beer and many people seek it out." See what the reply is.
     
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  4. RandomBattle

    RandomBattle Zealot (606) Jun 25, 2010 New York
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    Buy em out and change it up.
     
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  5. BKBassist

    BKBassist Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2013 New York

    Yeah just have a conversation with them. Look at some of the brands they carry, see who distributes those brands and see what else they have in their catalog. Bring those brands up in your conversation, talk about how you dig what they have.
     
  6. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 Illinois

    Talking does wonders. Crazy, right?
     
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  7. ParchedNeedBeer

    ParchedNeedBeer Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2011 California

    Bring in your own bottle of beer. When they question what the hell you're doing, tell them they dont have what you're looking for.
     
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  8. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    That doesn't seem very nice.
     
  9. jl28r1

    jl28r1 Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2011 Texas

    You had the perfect chance to tell them when you got the "long time no see" line.
    Simply say that you like the place but other places in town seem to be more eager to keep things new and fresh. Seems odd that they would not know how many awesome places there are up your way to choose from but maybe they just got comfortable with how things were. You might be doing them a great favor by having a nice and relaxed chat about what you think.
     
  10. PalatePilot

    PalatePilot Pundit (903) Dec 24, 2010 Colorado

    Let the owners run their bar how they want to run it.

    If there are other bars that offer what you're looking for, frequent them.
     
  11. Swik

    Swik Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2012 Indiana

    Sounds like you were a regular right? If they value your business they should seriously consider any feedback you provide them. Unless they truly don't give a shit. Just ask the bartender, bet it wouldn't be the most offensive thing they've heard all day. At first I thought you may have been talking about a smaller brewery but if it's just a beer bar their livelihood depends on you buying pints, go up there, suck down some liquid courage and demand better beer, nuff said.
     
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  12. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 Illinois

    ........what?
     
  13. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Is the bar crowded and doing well? If so don't waste your time.
     
  14. bifrost17

    bifrost17 Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2011 Washington

    You don't need to be an asshole if they ask where you've been, just be honest. Tell them that other places have beers that you'd rather drink than what they've usually got on tap. I really doubt they'd take offense to that, especially if it's a beer bar and the people that work there are into beer, they should understand that you just want to drink the best possible beer that's available to you, and if they're not providing it then you're going to take your money elsewhere.
     
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  15. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Well, since you're in Washington, you could just go the Passive-Aggresive route: "Hey, I heard some asshole started an on-line thread about about about how shitty you guys are. I would never do that, you guys are my favorites!".
     
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  16. PalatePilot

    PalatePilot Pundit (903) Dec 24, 2010 Colorado

    What don't you get about that statement?

    Why does the OP feel like he needs to tell someone how to run their business?
    If a bar doesnt have what you want to drink, go somewhere else.

    That's the beauty about a capitalist economic system, if the public doesn't like a product ( Bar ) then the owners will choose to change something on their own, or they will fail.

    I thought it was a straight forward statement.
     
  17. smartassboiler

    smartassboiler Pooh-Bah (2,518) Apr 9, 2012 Illinois
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    The point is that the OP would like to make an effort at a place that he spent plenty of time at before. It's obviously a place the OP used to really like, and judging from his comment here, it's a place he'd enjoy frequenting again if they'd simply offer better beers. There's zero downside to him walking in and respectfully talking up the bartender or owner about why he's started to take his business elsewhere. If they're receptive, maybe he gets his frequent hangout back. Worst case they do nothing, and he goes somewhere else knowing he at least made an effort.
     
  18. cyclonece09

    cyclonece09 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,559) Aug 5, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Why not just do it with your feet and your wallet? If there are better options, your business there will help to show them something is wrong. Also, if you tell your friends and word starts to spread about the better options, things may change.
     
  19. OldBluesNewBrews

    OldBluesNewBrews Initiate (0) Oct 25, 2012 New Jersey

    walk in with two storm troopers, wave your hand a la Obi-Wan and say, "these aren't the beers you're looking for." Then walk out
     
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  20. RWLawman

    RWLawman Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2012 North Carolina

    Be honest, but be nice. I think some of the people here have given good advice. If you're blunt, you'll come across like a prick, but if you sugar coat it just a touch, you'll be fine. I think the best advice on here was just saying something along the lines of, "Hey, you ever thought of getting "x" beer?" I don't see anything wrong with that. Of course, tone has a big part of conversation, so maybe find a tone that isn't sarcastic or degrading, and instead, genuinely inquisitive.

    If you're looking to help them out, and are genuine in your motivation, then go for it. Otherwise, I do think going to the places that have the selection you're looking for may be a good option too. You know the business owner better than any of us here, so the end decision is in your hands.
     
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