Help me understand what I don't like about Belgians

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  1. Mnigro

    Mnigro Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2014 Georgia

    First post so be easy on me. My beer knowledge and vernacular is poor.

    I've had some Chimays, and lately, some Leffe blonde, La Fin Du Monde, and a few Belgian strongs. They all have a fruity-ish and spice flavor that I'm not a fan of. It's something in the middle of the taste that I'm not partial to. The finish is also bad for me, as in hard for me to swallow towards the middle to end of the glass. It seems to be easier in the first half of the beer.

    I can't seem to identify what exactly the flavor is that I'm not partial to. Is it the Belgian yeast that's common to these beers? Maybe this is an impossible question to answer but figured I'd give it a shot.

    Thanks for the help
     
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  2. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    It's the Belgian yeast. It imparts the fruit and spice flavors you are getting.
     
  3. StLeasy

    StLeasy Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2013 Illinois

    Yup. Anything with wild or Brett yeast will taste similar, like Farmhouse ales/Saisons.
     
  4. TwoTrees

    TwoTrees Pundit (951) Oct 31, 2012 Washington

    OP, you shut your face about not liking those glorious Belgians!!

    Alright, I'm just kidding:wink: It probably is most likely the yeast that UCLABrewN84 mentioned. I also know that the candy sugar profile in some Belgians is an element that was odd to me at first, yet that I've grown to love.

    Bottom line: Just drink what tastes good, man. You'll eventually find yourself circling back around with new appreciation.
     
  5. BeerDazed

    BeerDazed Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2014 Wisconsin

    • Have you had any of the Allagash brews? Who knows...You might just like this specialty, Belgian-style, craft brewer.
     
  6. BeerAssassin

    BeerAssassin Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2012 Antarctica

    Don't know what to tell you about the yeast fruit flavors. For the finish I used to hate the crazy amounts of carbonation, if you have a cellar pour the beer really aggressively in the cellar about 30min-1hr before you plan on drinking it and you'll get less if not uncarbonated Belgian beer. I always drink my Belgians this way. If they still have too much carbonation try pouring from one glass to another after the head dies down. Also try drinking it fresh specially if you lik a sweeter beer, many Belgians are bottle conditioned, so a fresher beer will have less carbonation and more sweetness at least that's been my experience.
     
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  7. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Theres no rule that says you have to like them you know. Just ignore them and drink IPA's. Nothing wrong with that.
     
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  8. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Yeast. There are hundreds of different strains both 'wild' such as brettanomyces or 'traditional' brewers yeast (saccharomyces) that all impart a different array of byproducts and flavor compounds as they ferment malt sugars into alcohol. Generally speaking;

    American ale strains = clean profile, malt and hops shine
    English ale strains = stone fruit, some accentuate malt character
    German ale & lager strains = clean, mostly all Germans are lager strains and clean with mineral laden profile
    Belgian ale strains = Ester forward with spice and mild fruit, can be mild dark or tropical fruit depending on strain

    These are just my experiences in the home and commercial brewing setting and with drinking and researching over the years. Usually beers fall into these four domains + wild & sour beers + other unique styles such as Hefeweizen (which is German ale strain) and more times than not drinkers have one camp they tend to not favor or hold equal to the others. Your sensory make-up is unique, and individualistic. There are foods I am sure you dislike as well, and music, and books, and philosophy. To me, it is quite simple: you like it or you don't, and because others favor something doesn't particularly mean you have to as well. Cheers man.
     
  9. lic217

    lic217 Pooh-Bah (2,090) Aug 10, 2010 Connecticut
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    I was like you about 1 year ago. I just couldn't enjoy Belgian beers. However, my taste buds slowly changed. I started enjoying them more and more. Keep trying them every couple of months, your tastes may change too.

    Quads were the first Belgians that I started to enjoy. Now I love them.
     
  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Many of the Belgian strains produce phenolics, which are the spice flavors and others. Some don't like phenolic flavors in beers. Do you not like German wheat beers? Those also have phenolic yeast.
     
  11. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    Could it be the coriander? A lot of Belgians have that in.
     
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  12. target88

    target88 Savant (1,015) Dec 3, 2013 Kentucky

    Its that Begium yeast funk, that armpit smell.... lol sorry but at least there is more for the rest of us !
     
  13. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    It's the yeast funk.
     
  14. JimKal

    JimKal Savant (1,213) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

    I think this is great advice. I've found that with time I have grown to like and even love (IPA, I'm calling your name) some styles that didn't appeal to me. In my younger years, now many years ago, I tried SA lager and didn't like it - too bitter I thought. Now, it's one of my favorite lagers. As you get farther into the craft experience you will find your taste preferences changing. I would suggest not trying to force the change but let it happen. When you are at a restaurant or bar that has craft offerings try something you haven't had. You may discover that you now like something that you didn't like before. This happened to me with IPAs. Initially I didn't like "bitter" beer, now I crave it.

    Belgians are quite different with that background "earthiness". Saisons/Farmhouse ales are one of my favorites. But I find some that I love and some that do not appeal to me. The ones I like (such as Boulevard's Tank 7) have that earthiness that I crave. But some present, to me, a medicinal taste that I find off-putting. For me, the taste range in Belgians is more dramatic than many other styles.
     
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  15. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    The term "Belgians" covers a large number of styles. There is no rule saying you have to like all of them. If you find that you don't care for "sours" (as I have) don't worry about it and move on.
     
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  16. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Try any beer style you don't like 17 times. If you still don't like it cross it off the list and continue with the other 102 styles.
     
  17. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    don't get me started on the Belgians. they can be a little uppity sometimes. they're not French. they're not Dutch. wtf are they anyway?
    oh. ok...

    the great thing about Belgian beer, for many, is the diversity. there is only a very loose interpretation of what it means to be a "Belgian Beer". Stella Artois is Belgian after all. but so is Orval.

    what you should probably do for now, as many others have done prior, is put down the Belgian styles and enjoy what you like. in a little while you will be curious and rediscover a lot of things that have been waiting. or not. either way it's just beer. have fun.
    Cheers.
     
  18. GCBrewery

    GCBrewery Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2014 Connecticut

    My first go at Belgians yielded the same results as yours. I circled around 4 years later and was knocked of my chair by Rochefort 10. Now I can't get enough quads or dubbels, but I'm still not in love with trippels or blonds ales (maybe in another 4 years). My advice: you'll save a lot of money if you move past this style of beer.
     
  19. isaackaiju

    isaackaiju Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2014 Texas

    don't worry op, I don't like them either
     
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  20. OneDropSoup

    OneDropSoup Pooh-Bah (2,213) Dec 9, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I love Belgians, but I think I know what you're talking about here. Sometimes when drinking them, I get the sensation of a tightness in my throat that literally makes it hard to swallow. This doesn't happen with ALL Belgians, but it seems to ONLY happen with Belgians, especially saisons, which are typically very yeast-forward. My hunch is that there's something about the yeast that I'm allergic to. Does this sound anything like the experience you're describing?
     
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