Founders Frangelic Mtn Brown

I think it is a very good beer and I could care less what label is on it. I liked it on KBS Day and I like it still today.

I also find it comical that you are pointing out about how people over value it because of the label, but if it didn't say that it was atrifically flavored with hazelnut flavor, like you would be able to tell (I am sure you will try to convince everyone otherwise). So my guess is that you are beating it up over them artifically flavoring something you probably would not know the difference of, but yet you are calling out other people for liking it for something else the label says. Whatever, just enjoy the beer or don't drink it, problem solved.

 

This is actually a pretty fair point. I see plenty of people complaining about limited distribution for other brews. Maybe this isn't an A+ beer, but lots of people seem to like it very much, and it's really not that hard to get a bottle if you tried. As already mentioned, maybe there is some hype that bumped the rating up, but it's also possible that those on the negative side are bringing it down. I haven't cracked mine yet, so I can't comment (though I have a feeling I'm going to like it).

In the end, it's a new, interesting brew from a great brewery that most of us have the chance to try. Isn't that part of the fun?

 

I agree with this 100%.

 

I heard that Bolt Cutter will be full of artificial ingredients.

 

Paid $18 in Milford, hope its good.

 

No longer on tap at Founder's as of 10 minutes after I got there.... still got 'em at the taproom store for $13 apiece

 

Not sure if this was answered somewhere else but a friend of mine pointed out, that they probably advertise it as artificial in case anyone out there has nut allergies so they are still able to drink the beer.

 

So I has mine last night - overall enjoyed it, not amazing, but certainly good. Pretty much exactly what I was expecting, though I wish it was a bit cheaper.

But what stood out to me most is how much it reminded me of ST Pumking (I'm on the Pumking-lover side of the fence). To me, Pumking has a strong baked-good quality. It's the warm, inviting, straight from the oven quality that makes that beer taste like pie, and it's a flavor I haven't found in any other beer, until now (is there a word for it?). The warm hazelnut in FMB reminded me exactly of that (minus the coffee of course), so much so that I wonder if Pumking uses the same stuff to obtain that flavor. Any one else get that?

 

Having experience brewing a Pumking clone, the key ingredient in the homebrew version of ST Pumking is Graham Cracker Extract to give that 'baked-good quality' that you reference. It would make sense then that a similar 'Hazelnut Extract' would be an ingredient added to Secondary that would give a similar flavor, if indeed that is what Founders would use to create this brew.

 

Graham cracker! That's the descriptor I was looking for. Love that stuff.

Anyway, I guess it's different ingredients, but still tasted very similar to me. Am I still the only one? Haven't had a pumking in a while, but maybe I should to refresh my memory.

Btw, how did the clone come out?

 

Agreed that it is somewhat similar in terms of mouthfeel, but the final product is in an entirely different class of brew, so it is difficult to directly compare the two.

As for the clone, it came out delicious and has aged quite well what with the high gravity. Only issue is price - cloning Pumking isn't cheap - that is one complex brew!

 

if anyone is looking for one around the Royal Oak MI area, shoot me a BM. There is a crappy party store that has a few in the backroom for an obscene price of $20. Perhaps if you call them out, they will lower it - I just didnt bother and walked away since I had already gotten a couple.

 

Screw that place. $20 is a ripoff.

 

Dialogue with owner(?) at Linda's Country Store in Almont:

Me: (point to single FMB bottle on counter) how much is that?
Her: $25.
Me: Ahhh, no. Thank. You.
Her: If you knew what that was, you would understand.
Me: I do know what that is. Should probably be about $15.
Her: Maybe at Champanes!
Me: Nah, they actually had it for about $12.
Her: Well, it goes for $45 on eBay.
Me: (door slamming me in the ass).

 

Lush on Roscoe had about 8-9 bottles in the cooler at $15 about 10 minutes ago.

 

It's a sad day when the stores refer to EBay to justify price gouging.

 

Agreed which is why I smirked and immediately walked out of the store when he said $20.

 

Yeah, I was a bit disappointed in my beer store guy charging me $18. I've given this guy a bunch of out of market beer for him to try.

 

I got 3 bottles at a local place by my work that raises prices on rare stuff... and he charged 14.99 each. That place is my barometer for how high rare prices should go. I'm guessing that's a 40-50% mark up over wholesale.

The beer is one of the more interesting brown ales I've had, so it's worth picking up a few bottles. Not worth spending more than the price of a Porabola while they are still out there though.

 

Withouth knowing it, you just called out all the suckers who dropped $25 on a bottle there ...not me