Casa Agria Specialty Ales

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  1. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    To be fair, not a single craft brewery prices their beer that way.
     
  2. Saxmusik45

    Saxmusik45 Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2011 California

    Your omniscience regarding the beer industry is noted.
     
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  3. Elbatmanuel

    Elbatmanuel Initiate (0) Oct 6, 2014 California

    Im local and intrigued about the membership but would like the chance to taste at least one of you beers before dropping $300. Will you guys be open monday? Can we taste/signup in person?
     
  4. Xline9

    Xline9 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 California

    We will be opening up sample beers both sat/sun at the in person event. Please join us for some food and tasters.
     
  5. Retsinis

    Retsinis Pooh-Bah (1,622) Sep 25, 2009 Arizona
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    @Xline9 Appreciate the additional details. Some of my concerns that I made to some friends that were considering joining, that were of concern to me:
    • Who's brewing
    • Where will the wort be made
    • Where will the wort be stored.
    • How will it be stored (foedors, wine barrels, stainless fermentors, etc.)
    and some other loose ends have been detailed now . Samples is the biggest detail to highlight I think, knowing what potential customers might get (in terms of taste and quality) for their money before handing it over is key. I still personally feel the entry price point is too high for a startup, and I, personally, will be a wait and see potential future customer as a result. I'm sure many of us will be thrilled, myself included, with another sour brewery focused entry in the Socal beer scene if this pans out, and I wish you the best of luck. I hope to visit the tasting room once it opens.

    Good contemporary examples have been brought up too as price/society comparisons. Mainly the Rare Barrel and The Bruery. While the Bruery's RS the first year was a comparable price (for 2009/2010) , and pretty close in terms of what you got, they were open nearly a year already when they launched it, and had a full tasting room. Sampling their beers beforehand made the decision easier. Another good example brought up, The Rare barrel. RB, had/has industrial, commercial brewing experience behind them, so while it was also still a gamble, most felt more confident in the investment/risk/reward would pan out in the end. Hope this weekends event goes well, I’m sure tasting reports/reviews will go a long way to alay most concerns.
     
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  6. thome50

    thome50 Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2006 California

    Just to be clear though, the samples you will be pouring are homebrew and not anything brewed on The Lab Brew Co system and aged in barrels/Foeders, correct?
     
  7. Xline9

    Xline9 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 California

    Correct, we just recently obtained our TTB license, we are now legally allowed to brew on a commercial system.
     
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  8. Xul

    Xul Pooh-Bah (2,139) May 18, 2008 California
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    The first year of RS was $195 and actually only included 5 bottles (BA PiaPT, White Oak, 2TD, BT, BA 2TD), although it did include complementary events and merch. It's interesting how far that program has come since its inception was far more about opportunity to buy than actual included bottles.
     
  9. grze

    grze Maven (1,460) Apr 17, 2012 Virginia
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    Not sure how my name got into that quote :astonished:
     
  10. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    Yeah, I guess that was a bit on the snarky side by me, but it's true: ingredients are just a small percentage of the final price of beer.

    That being said, I am not on board with new breweries, especially those that don't have brewers with a respectable resume, charging $30 for beers.
     
  11. iamthecarlos

    iamthecarlos Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2015 California

    In a nutshell, this is why I'm not on board. Cheers to those who are willing to take this leap of faith. I'll be in the peanut gallery with these guys...

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  12. bnelson997

    bnelson997 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2013 California

    I'm very glad to see @Xline9 come in and answer many questions that potential customers had. I think I can speak for us all in that keeping communication with us via BA, Facebook, Twitter, etc will go a long way in dispelling the naysayers. I personally want you guys to make it to the next level and go toe to toe with the great sour producers that have popped up in recent memory. I started this thread not even knowing anything about the brewery other than it was in the planning stage. I hope the concerns raised here are taken to heart and applied to the future of your business. As far as I can see, there's no direction to go but up. It's up to you and your partners at the brewery whether it skyrockets or crashes to the ground.
     
  13. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    I'm not a huge fan of sours and only crave one on occasion so I'm not planning on a membership either way. But I do work across the street on Del Norte and I will definitely be in for tasters, growlers, and other non-commital beers.

    But I think a good question to be asked is, (coming from the homebrew scene for many years myself) on paper it seems fairly easy to make a fruited sour beer that would be impressive to the BeerAdvocate community. Brew a blonde ale, add fruit, add yeast/bug culture that you've propagated from the bottom of your favorite commercial sour, and voila you've got hype (and a pretty tasty beer).

    What types of sour beer expertise or yeast/bug management skills are either of the brewers bringing to the table in order to insure the unweildy sour bugs are used as intended and not just on a, whatever comes out of the foeder after 6 months basis?
     
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  14. Xul

    Xul Pooh-Bah (2,139) May 18, 2008 California
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    Wow, I think I had quoted another message that I was going to respond to and it was saved as a draft, then when I was cleaning that out I accidentally left the quote tag from your post and deleted the one from @Retsinis . My bad.
     
  15. grze

    grze Maven (1,460) Apr 17, 2012 Virginia
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    For the moment I though that there was some post that I don't remember, but since I have not been drinking today (yet!) I got a little confused. Haha. All good.
     
  16. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    As far as I understand it, they are brewing their own beer. They don't own the equipment, but it sounds to be a 100% hands on brewing situation.
     
  17. bnelson997

    bnelson997 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2013 California

    They did post today that they just received TTB label approval and building permit approval. Hard to brew on their own premises when it's not been built yet.
     
  18. PG2G

    PG2G Initiate (0) Dec 26, 2011 California

    It says tenant brewing for the first year. Not that it even matters though, if the end product is good who gives a damn what physical location it was brewed at?
     
  19. bnelson997

    bnelson997 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2013 California

    We get it, you're not a supporter in any way shape or form of this brewery. I don't see how you're being a true Beer Advocate by constantly bashing every aspect of these guys. It's simple to me... Don't like them, don't give them your money and move on.
     
  20. GhettoFabulous

    GhettoFabulous Initiate (0) May 29, 2010 California

    If they rename their brewery to Cart-in-Front-of-the-Horse Ales, I will gladly sign up and write them a check post dated to 2017.
     
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