The Locals HINTS AND HAULS THREAD

Well... SOMEONE was the popular girl.....

 

Trillium is Boston, so New England. The Alchemist is far enough NW in Vermont, that its actually back over in the Mid-Atlantic watershed. Hill Farmstead is up in the mountains (I think) that form the boundary between the Mid-Atlantic and New England watersheds, so could be a combination, or who really knows. Vermont is the only New England state that is not completely in the New England watershed.

 

Wait, how does Alchemist, further away from the area known as "mid-atlantic" than Boston, go back to being in that watershed? (he asks, having not clicked any of the above links)

 

True, though the question really is where that faucet comes from as it really does matter, especially for beer (which is why a lot of traditional styles can only be brewed in certain areas, or after treating the water so it resembles the water profile of the original area).

You can actually keep zooming in on the usgs.gov map to look at the lower level units (e.g. The Alchemist is in the Winooski Cataloging Unit). At the very lowest level you can get some additional information, including a water sample. Granted it was taken in 2008 and in Burlington (so a little ways away), but interesting nonetheless

I used to use this information a couple times a year to figure out what rafting trips would be like since the usgs also maintains flow meters (though none near Waterbury that I can see). A group of us used to go down the Gauley (in WV) every year. Its a controlled flow river by dam release, but if it'd been raining hard the days previously there's one or two rivers that join the Gauley that can make the water awfully pushy (and if anyone has been down the Gauley they know its already pretty damn pushy).

cc: @Clarkson

 

So true, Burton on Trent is a great example, the wells in Trappist monasteries is another, and the water in Pilsen too.

 

Not disagreeing, just being a wise ass. I haven't been around as much lately, so trying to make up for it today.

 

Basically watersheds are mostly about drainage areas. The main defining point on the East Coast (and West Coast) for draining areas are the mountains. Waterbury is basically in between the Adirondacks and the Green Mountains (both part of the Appalachians). If you look at the map you can basically see how NE NY and NW Vermont funnel down the country and basically all of that water is funnel through a break between the Blue Ridge mountains and the northern highlands (which the Green Mountains are a part of), which is basically the Lehigh/Lebanon/Cumberland Valleys, basically where the Great Valley stops having a mountain range on the eastern side of it to allow the water to get to the ocean.

Further west in NY and the Adirondacks and some other mountains push the water west into the Great Lakes. Further east in Vermont and the Green Mountains push the water east towards the coast that way.

 

I know, but the cost of being a wise ass is another pedantic lecture on crap that I've spent waaaaay too much time reading about on Wikipedia across the last 5 years or so. This all started with a family argument with my wife's family about whether the Great Lakes drained into the Mississippi (and thus the Gulf of Mexico) or the St Lawrence Seaway (and thus the Atlantic), or possibly didn't drain at all (which since the entire family has been to Niagara, having grown up in Buffalo, that option didn't last long). My wife's father is a bit of a pedant and thus the fact that almost no water leaves the Great Lakes and goes to the Mississippi wasn't quite the same as 'no water' and thus wanted to say that they drained into both.

 

Seems like one pedant deserves another.

 

I love your family. I would giddily argue with them for HOURS.

 

Burton-on-Trent and Pilsen are definitely the most famous examples. There was actually a fascinating (to me...) article in 2013 in Zymurgy on the different water profiles around Dublin and how that changed the stouts that originated there. Unfortunately I can't find a link to it online.

 

This water talk and doing the final touches on my deck rip off are making me thirsty.


I also replaced the broken Bells opener on my garage beer opener. Back in business.

 

But...... that says Founders.....

#pedantic

 

HF Mary at Worthy Burger in South Royalton, VT. Had my first triple sunshine with @devilfluff here. Cheers!

 

VBS. Drinking a Kuhnhenn DRIPA. Love the growler and label you northern folks use. Thanks @JasonR1975

 

You rebels will never learn it's the contents that matter

Bar local to me will fill any glass like container, and they always have DRIPA on tap, they don't put a tag on ish either, completely illegal but I can get fresh DRIPA with a four minute drive instead of a forty minute one - plus they have no idea what they have half the time so I've also filled two howlers of KBS

 

What other thread can give you a mock Gettysburg Address, a discussion of watersheds in New England, and a blonde joke all on one page?

 

Was able to make sure my work schedule took me by Al's of Hampden today around 4PM for their tired hands event, met up with @PA-Michigander and a few of his buddies.


Started off with a Shambolic, excellent hoppy saison and you can't beat this pour and you get to keep the #properglassware for only 6 bones.



Then I went with Hophands, looks beautiful like all that Trillium and Northeast awesomeness everyone was talking about earlier, taste's just as good as it looks.

Nick also let me try a sip of his glass of I'm Sad, was a really light looking Porter but the coffee flavor was strong and it finished sweet from the honey, caught me off guard at first but it was really good.

Now I'm relaxing on the deck watching the little man play while I drink this one from @whyteboy003 :


Miami Brewing Co. - Shark Bait - Man, this one surprised me, tastes like a wheat beer with bubble gum flavoring added. Going down smooth on a nice warm evening.

Oh yeah, also sent out a nice little 12 bottle shipper-bomb to a Southern boy, watch your porches!

Cheers!

 

#VBS #datglass

Love these BA Clown Shoes beers, must be the water. Always scared to send them though, thinking they are shelf beers everywhere. Is that the case? They look pretty widespread on seekabrew.

 

This pretty much sums it up..