Chicagoland NE IPAs (2018)

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  1. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Grand Pooh-Bah (5,630) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    Personally...no one's that close.

    Mikerphone is probably the closest as of this moment, but my money long-term is on Corridor. I'd love to see them open an all-haze facility...and since I'm dreaming, if they could put it in Rogers Park near my apartment that would be great.
     
  2. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    I mean, how big is your apartment? :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  3. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Grand Pooh-Bah (5,630) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    About the size of Corridor's current brewing set up, unfortunately!!
     
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  4. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    HOP back on the Hop Butcher train!


    Also, has anyone had the Triple IPA from Hubbard's yet? I'm kind of over purchasing big single bottles (These 4 packs are spoiling me HARD), but this one just sounds so appealing...
     
  5. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Can you elaborate? What goes into being a Tree House or Monkish?
     
  6. JFresh21

    JFresh21 Savant (1,036) Mar 6, 2012 Illinois
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    Very unlikely. NE IPAs are popping up everywhere so less trade incentive. As far as the beer, yes, Chicago brewed NE IPAs will be as good.
     
  7. beerbelly_mike

    beerbelly_mike Initiate (0) May 19, 2016 Illinois

    I think if we are talking about Treehouse's regular offerings, than yes, for Chicago is on that map with Forbidden Root and Corridor. Even Noon whistle, Mikerphone, and hop butcher have had one or two on par, but I would say they are far more inconsistent than the previously mentioned. If we are now putting up Chicago NE IPAs against Juice Machine, King Julius and so forth, than we do have our ways to go (or so I am told, never had Juice Machine so if anyone wants to help out with that lol).
     
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  8. weirdalchy

    weirdalchy Crusader (436) Jan 23, 2015 Illinois
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    For starters; most days Treehouse, on a Wednesday afternoon/early evening, pushes over 1,000 people through those doors. People will line up for Treehouse (or Monkish for that matter) with zero clue as to what is being released. There is basically zero risk of either of those two breweries putting out a bad beer.
     
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  9. Chuckdiesel24

    Chuckdiesel24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,208) Jul 6, 2016 Illinois
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    I think it's getting there. I picked up Skrap Metal because folks on here gave it the thumbs up - glad I did, it's really good. Dangerously drinkable.

    I personally haven't had much Chicago-specific that I would put up with Tree House - I thought the last batch of Juicy (from the day Shaun left RAM), and OG Squeezit are what I can think of that got the closest. One or two of the batches of the Mikerphone Special Sauce were really good last year, too. It's so hard to that

    That said - one that is up there is Old Nation. My friend from Ohio stopped by last night. He travels throughout MI, WI, IL, MN, IA for work and picked up a couple 4-packs of M-43. Did a side by side with Haze - both about a month old - and they were clearly on the same level.
     
  10. beerbelly_mike

    beerbelly_mike Initiate (0) May 19, 2016 Illinois


    I have been seeing so much hype for M-43 and I was not impressed. Although I did enjoy it, it was more on Maplewood's level in my eyes. Not a bad thing, by any means, I enjoy Maplewood. But it's no Treehouse.
     
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  11. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    I think the thing to consider with Chicago's NE stuff is that a lot of these guys are still experimenting, whereas your Treehouses of the world have their style dialed in (especially since it's a style they helped to pioneer). A lot of local breweries are having to, if not start from scratch, basically completely rethink their brewing process, what yeast they use, what they're looking for in an IPA, etc. You saw this initially with guys like Maplewood, whose initial NE beer used Conan yeast but was completely clear, and who have gradually got their stuff more towards what we "expect." Another good example is obviously Hop Butcher, who uses different yeasts for different NE beers (Galaxy Bowl uses a different yeast than the majority of their other releases, if I'm not mistaken). That plus the initial learning curve of how the yeast reacts over time (as we saw in that first glorious batch of GB) explains the variation in their beers.

    Frankly, I don't know that Chicago will ever have an exact Treehouse clone; how many exact Alchemist clones are out there? Realistically, if one of TH's keys is their water, that may be something that remains unique to them. What we should focus on/hope for is that the local guys just work on nailing down their base profiles (texture, mouthfeel, etc.) so that everytime they release a new beer, you know what you're getting into. Corridor seems to be doing a great job with that, and while BJ and FR are a little more experimental (rye IPAs, IPAs with grape juice, etc.), the consistency is definitely still there. Personal hop preferences notwithstanding, if I can pick up a beer from these places and know almost exactly what I'm getting, I'm happy.
     
  12. Chuckdiesel24

    Chuckdiesel24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,208) Jul 6, 2016 Illinois
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    Interesting - shows how different palates can be. I liked the Haze better, but side by side I thought the M43 held its own. Clearly different hop profiles, and weirdly I thought the Haze (DIPA - 8.2%) was more drinkable than the M43 (IPA - 6.8%), but both were what I think of for a NE IPA.
     
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  13. TigerDriver91

    TigerDriver91 Zealot (741) Jan 17, 2017 Czechia

    One of the reasons I'm so high on Forbidden Root is that all their NE style IPAs are very different from each other, at least to my palate. Each one takes a different approach, adds something different, which creates quite a cool and unique line up like Radio Swan, Snoochie Boochies, Atomic Child, etc.
     
  14. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    If that is the case, then no Chicago won't. Chicago is a much more mature market and has too many options. Treehouse and Monkish have fewer options around them thus the hype cycle is through the roof on them. You put those in Chicago without the hype and they wouldn't sell out. There is nothing unique about Zombie Dust anymore just like we are heading to with NEIPAs, yet people still go bonkers over it because of word of mouth from 5 years ago....
     
  15. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
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    Not so sure about 'too many options' in Chicago mature market point. Monkish is in LA, Trillium is in Boston, Other Half and Interboro in New York, Bissell is in Portland (which has a ton of breweries)... all relatively mature markets. And plenty of places that aren't in big cities just make 'good' beer. I could argue Chicago has a mature market but still has no demand for their offerings because I barely see any ISO listings in the trade forums for offerings of NE style IPAs. And the hype thing... If there's a place that can (over)hype the beers with the best of them, it's Chicagoland. I don't think that's it.
     
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  16. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    To be fair, Chicago doesn't get those sweet ISOs because historically they haven't had a strong showing in this style. I agree with your point, and also with @HouseofWortship's; I'm not convinced that TH would sell out of every beer every day here, but it's certainly true that if any city can overhype a beer *looks at Big Hugs* it's Chicago. I definitely think TH's location helps it, though. If I go to the Boston area, there are exactly 2 spots I care about hitting--TH and Trillium (not saying there's not other good beer, and I could potentially be convinced to check out Sam Adams).
     
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  17. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    You seem to have gone off on a tangent that I don't follow. We were talking about Tree House and Monkish. Please focus.

    It completely is. LA wasn't on the craft beer scene until fairly recently in the whole scheme of things. Everything coming out of CA was coming out mid to north CA... The Bruery, RR, Lagunita, Sierra Nevada, etc. 3 years ago people would be hard pressed to even name an LA brewery....Tree House isn't in Boston- it's an hour outside it. If you want beer without driving into the city, you have to go there. If it sells out quick you have to go same day...It's necessity. Remember how quick the first Galaxy Bowl disappeared? First Juice Pants? Holy cow, now we have 5 places doing acceptable styles so there isn't a need to go line up for one since you know you can grab one at the other places as very few beer nerds are hitting up every NEIPA release. Who are the Tree House alternatives in Canton, MA? Drive an hour plus into Boston?
     
  18. TigerDriver91

    TigerDriver91 Zealot (741) Jan 17, 2017 Czechia

    To speak of Monkish and L.A., L.A. has had no sort of competition for NE styles. (Monkish isn't even technically in L.A. city, but a suburb called Torrance). It's only been Monkish. That is until recently though. There is now Mumford out of downtown L.A., Brouwerij West out of San Pedro, and even Highland Park Brewing (out of Highland Park) all doing the style and doing it reasonably well in the L.A. region. As they dial theirs in more, then *maybe* the Monkish demand will settle down a little bit as well.

    As more and more places will take on this style nationally and if they do it at a reasonably well level, I think the demand for NE overall will eventually go down.

    Maybe I'm wrong though. I guess the demand for Pliny never really went down despite there being plenty of big west coast IPAs in the world, right?

    Regardless, I'm extremely happy with what I consider Chicago's top and best two, 1. Forbidden Root, 2. Corridor. I don't trade beers and with those two breweries specifically, I don't feel like I am missing out as I fully believe they are on the level.

    I kind of actually like how this thread always comes back to this topic. :grin::rofl:
     
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  19. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    Summed up my feelings perfectly. Walking to Corridor beats setting up a trade any day! :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  20. RexKramer

    RexKramer Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2011 Illinois

    Trillium. Tree House is in Charlton. :wink:
     
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